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08-12-2015 , 11:07 PM
Hope he does the same thing to Brady now.
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08-12-2015 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by El Rata
EJ better watch his mouth or he's gonna get duffed the **** out
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08-13-2015 , 12:13 AM
QB is the most important position and the Bills don't have a good one. So the best way to instill confidence in your young QB is to immediately bring a guy into the locker room who broke his QBs jaw.

Seriously. This is just such a Rexian thing to do. Rexian means stupid.
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08-13-2015 , 12:26 AM


Granted Dallas has a really young crew but that looks pretty skinny, getting into linebacker territory almost
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08-13-2015 , 12:30 AM
Dallas is indeed an outlier, but there's not a ton of correlation between weight and quality there. Rams are arguably #1 and are also on the lighter side.
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08-13-2015 , 08:50 AM
5/65/39 seems like a lot for TY. Maybe I'm underrating him, but Dez/Demaryius at 5/70/~45 seem like significantly better contracts.
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08-13-2015 , 09:01 AM
Lotta cap spent on TY and Luck once Luck gets reupped. About 1/5 of total?
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08-13-2015 , 09:51 AM
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08-13-2015 , 10:28 AM
Unless this is about keeping luck happy I have no idea why you would ever pay up for a non-elite WR when luck is your qb
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08-13-2015 , 10:58 AM
I heard Admo bought Geno's debt for $.70 on the dollar.
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08-13-2015 , 11:07 AM
Top 10 all time in receiving yards through 3 seasons:

Randy Moss: 4163
AJ Green: 3833
Torry Holt: 3786
Jerry Rice: 3575
John Jefferson: 3431
Anquan Boldin: 3402
Isaac Bruce: 3391
Charley Hennigan: 3335
Sterling Sharpe: 3319
TY Hilton: 3289


TY is a beast. Guys who put up 3000+ rec yards in their first 3 seasons are pretty rare, regardless of who is throwing them the ball. He has also shown significant growth every year he has been in the league. Securing his services through his age 30 season at a rate just below the top tier guys seems fine.
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08-13-2015 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JMurder3
5/65/39 seems like a lot for TY. Maybe I'm underrating him, but Dez/Demaryius at 5/70/~45 seem like significantly better contracts.
Agreed
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08-13-2015 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
QB is the most important position and the Bills don't have a good one. So the best way to instill confidence in your young QB is to immediately bring a guy into the locker room who broke his QBs jaw.

Seriously. This is just such a Rexian thing to do. Rexian means stupid.
Buddy made him do it.
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08-13-2015 , 12:00 PM
Did they remove hard knocks from hbogo? Watched about half the episode yesterday and now it's gone.
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08-13-2015 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNoodleMan
Top 10 all time in receiving yards through 3 seasons:

Randy Moss: 4163
AJ Green: 3833
Torry Holt: 3786
Jerry Rice: 3575
John Jefferson: 3431
Anquan Boldin: 3402
Isaac Bruce: 3391
Charley Hennigan: 3335
Sterling Sharpe: 3319
TY Hilton: 3289


TY is a beast. Guys who put up 3000+ rec yards in their first 3 seasons are pretty rare, regardless of who is throwing them the ball. He has also shown significant growth every year he has been in the league. Securing his services through his age 30 season at a rate just below the top tier guys seems fine.
i mean the colts have a once in a generation qb throwing the ball 600 times a year and hilton just happens to be the best receiver on the depth chart

sure, he's good, but nothing he's doing is irreplaceable and he's certainly not worth bogging down that kind of cap space
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08-13-2015 , 12:42 PM
It's second-tier money. Around the same that equally talented receivers like Jeremy Maclin and Randall Cobb got.
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08-13-2015 , 12:43 PM
Luck's agent shouldn't settle for anything less than $27m per
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08-13-2015 , 12:51 PM
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Granted Dallas has a really young crew but that looks pretty skinny, getting into linebacker territory almost

I wonder if that might be a positive when facing Philly's uptempo power spread (assuming lower weight comes with agility and stamina).
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08-13-2015 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNoodleMan
Top 10 all time in receiving yards through 3 seasons:

Randy Moss: 4163
AJ Green: 3833
Torry Holt: 3786
Jerry Rice: 3575
John Jefferson: 3431
Anquan Boldin: 3402
Isaac Bruce: 3391
Charley Hennigan: 3335
Sterling Sharpe: 3319
TY Hilton: 3289


TY is a beast. Guys who put up 3000+ rec yards in their first 3 seasons are pretty rare, regardless of who is throwing them the ball. He has also shown significant growth every year he has been in the league. Securing his services through his age 30 season at a rate just below the top tier guys seems fine.
In 1 year Odell Beckham will knock him off that list
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08-13-2015 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
It's second-tier money. Around the same that equally talented receivers like Jeremy Maclin and Randall Cobb got.
it's still not in their best interest to pay that kind of money. maybe i'm underselling hilton but seems like luck is so good that the colts are better served fielding wrs on rookie contracts and spending that money on defensive pieces they clearly lack

you're giving hilton wr2 money because you know he isn't an elite wr. in a salary cap world it's inefficient to spend that kind of money on him even if it is relatively to WRs of similar talent a value
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08-13-2015 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
It's second-tier money. Around the same that equally talented receivers like Jeremy Maclin and Randall Cobb got.
Cobb got 4/40/13

TY got 5/65/35

Those contracts aren't particularly close.

Cobb $10m/year
Maclin $11m/year
TY $13m/year
Dez/DT $14m/year

I like 3 of those contracts...

Maclin details are 5/55/22.5 fwiw.

Not sure how $13m is in a tier with $10m, but not in a tier with $14m.
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08-13-2015 , 12:56 PM
Jeremy Maclin deal is ok until you realize he plays for the chefs where they don't even use receivers afaik
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08-13-2015 , 12:58 PM
They had a TD from a receiver at least...once last year? I think?
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08-13-2015 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Noze
They had a TD from a receiver at least...once last year? I think?
doesn't look like they had any

davis, mcknight, charles, kelce, fasano and sherman all rbs or te
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08-13-2015 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JMurder3
Cobb got 4/40/13

TY got 5/65/35

Those contracts aren't particularly close.

Cobb $10m/year
Maclin $11m/year
TY $13m/year
Dez/DT $14m/year

I like 3 of those contracts...

Maclin details are 5/55/22.5 fwiw.

Not sure how $13m is in a tier with $10m, but not in a tier with $14m.
We have no way of knowing how close the contracts are until the details are released. For all we know there could be $15 million in wildly unreachable bonuses that are driving the total number up.

Any serious comparison to existing contracts is very premature.
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