McDaniels is a very good coordinator. Might as well pay him a lot to stay.
Obv he ****ed over Indy, but well, **** those *******s.
I don't get why owners don't do this more often to keep coordinators that they like. Until
there's a salary cap for coaching staff, might as well pay top dollar to improve the team.
wow mcdaniels would've had to agree weeks ago or else they would've hired someone else. What a **** you to the colts.
They agreed to terms but he didn't sign it right? Otherwise we've got BB with the Jets situation here and I would absolutely not let that clown out of it back to NE without getting compensation.
k looked it up he hadn't signed it yet but still definitely agreed. Scumbag move. It's the NFL so kudos I guess?
lol'd at this part of the espn article
During the interview process, the Colts spoke with McDaniels, who is remaining in New England; former Kansas City Chiefs offensive coordinator Matt Nagy, who accepted the Chicago Bears' head-coaching job; former Houston Texans defensive coordinator Mike Vrabel, who accepted the Tennessee Titans' head-coaching job; former Carolina Panthers defensive coordinator Steve Wilks, who accepted the Arizona Cardinals' head-coaching job; Baylor head coach Matt Rhule, who said he's remaining at the school; and former Seattle Seahawks defensive coordinator Kris Richard, who took a defensive passing-game coordinator coaching job with the Dallas Cowboys.
so colts HC interviews went nope, three guys who got hired as HC's elsewhere, Baylor which was worse than the Colts this year, and another guy who got hired elsewhere.
Probably best for Colts fans. McDaniels coached Brissett in New England, after all, so he probably would've tried to trade Luck as soon as he got there.
The only BB assistant who is over .500 in his HC career is Al Groh at 9-7 who was only on BB's staff for one year.
And he resigned after one year coaching the Jets to take the head job at the University of Virginia.
None of BB's assistants have made good head coaches, but they range from the bad-to-possibly-mediocre (Bill O'Brien, Romeo Crennel-- although he did win 10 games in a season with the Browns, so maybe he's not as bad as we think), to the very bad in a boring way (Charlie Weis), to the very bad in an arrogant and petty way where they alienate all their talented players, bring in "their guys", and go 3-13 (Eric Mangini, Josh McDaniels). It's bizarre that league folks still think there's some magic in just hanging out around Bill Belichick.
That said, I wonder how much of hiring a coach is just a crapshoot. Doug Pederson was supposedly a consolation prize for losing out on Adam Gase, after all. I wonder if you can really tell just how innovative and forward-thinking a coach is, or how much they're willing to scheme to their best talent rather than force talent into their scheme, or how effective they are at scheming in general, or sound their tactical decision-making is, through a couple of interviews. I mean, you try to hire a hotshot young offensive coordinator, and maybe you get Pederson or Sean McVay; maybe you get McDaniels or Jason Garrett.
Shouldn't there be? I mean, I don't think I am exceptional, but when I have worked under good people, I learn from them and try to emulate them, or at least I try to understand what works and what doesn't. Working under the best should pay dividends, and it should make you better.
Shouldn't there be? I mean, I don't think I am exceptional, but when I have worked under good people, I learn from them and try to emulate them, or at least I try to understand what works and what doesn't. Working under the best should pay dividends, and it should make you better.
In theory, sure, but it sure doesn't seem to have played out that way. I imagine in a league as insular as the NFL, with so many bad processes and so much nepotism, you're not dealing with people who are seriously learning best practices so much as learning how to not make waves and how to make relationships that will further their career. (It's worth noting that McDaniels' career started when his father, a "coaching legend" in Ohio high school football, called his friend Nick Saban to get Lil' Josh on his staff.)
Coaches like McDaniels and Mangini seem to have mostly learned "secretive authoritarianism" from Belichick, and not much about how to actually be an effective coach.
That said, I wonder how much of hiring a coach is just a crapshoot. Doug Pederson was supposedly a consolation prize for losing out on Adam Gase, after all. I wonder if you can really tell just how innovative and forward-thinking a coach is, or how much they're willing to scheme to their best talent rather than force talent into their scheme, or how effective they are at scheming in general, or sound their tactical decision-making is, through a couple of interviews. I mean, you try to hire a hotshot young offensive coordinator, and maybe you get Pederson or Sean McVay; maybe you get McDaniels or Jason Garrett.
The people handling the interview don't know what they're looking for.
The people handling the interview don't know what they're looking for.
Yeah, that's a good point and likely true. That's the same idea that sparked my interest in studying the NFL Draft seriously-- the idea that it wasn't as much of a crapshoot as we'd been led to believe, but teams simply don't know what they're looking for and often focus on the wrong things, even obviously so.
Even if Josh does get the Pats job next year, am really not sure it’s a better job than the Colts job at all. I’d rather have Luck, TY, Doyle and rags than the next 2nd rd QB, Cooks if they pay him and then a load of ageing receivers and probably retired Gronk
Maybe Luck isn’t right still or maybe it really is about his family stability
Either way, awesome Ownership performance by the Krafts to retain him
Yeah, that's a good point and likely true. That's the same idea that sparked my interest in studying the NFL Draft seriously-- the idea that it wasn't as much of a crapshoot as we'd been led to believe, but teams simply don't know what they're looking for and often focus on the wrong things, even obviously so.
Even if Josh does get the Pats job next year, am really not sure it’s a better job than the Colts job at all. I’d rather have Luck, TY, Doyle and rags than the next 2nd rd QB, Cooks if they pay him and then a load of ageing receivers and probably retired Gronk
Maybe Luck isn’t right still or maybe it really is about his family stability
Either way, awesome Ownership performance by the Krafts to retain him
I thought the same thing. Can only assume Kraft is giving him crazy reassurances. I also thought working under Irsay wouldn't be ideal but look at how long Grigson/Pagano managed to keep their jobs
Yeah, that's a good point and likely true. That's the same idea that sparked my interest in studying the NFL Draft seriously-- the idea that it wasn't as much of a crapshoot as we'd been led to believe, but teams simply don't know what they're looking for and often focus on the wrong things, even obviously so.
That article also mentions some rumblings about Luck needing more surgery and that he might miss the 2018 season....yikes.
That article also mentions some rumblings about Luck needing more surgery and that he might miss the 2018 season....yikes.
The Colts are definitely in play for a QB at 3. What a 2012 draft, the no miss guy in the end may have a worse shoulder than Chad Pennington, the next guy's knee died, the next 5 picks all missed and it was supposed to be 6 top prospects draft--Luck is the only one still on his drafted team and 3 of the top 5 are out of the league, the next guy is Tannehill and two guys taken in round 3 Russell Wilson (traits of a top pick except the height) and Nick Foles have rang'd. Brock Osweiler was taken in round 2. Cousins in 4 and the Browns are the Browns--Weeden at 22nd overall.
2013 draft was AIDS at the top too but most of those guys are still bouncing around in the league somewhere at least even as backups.
Coordinators from successful teams are always the hot guy in who do we hire as next HC, without delving into the why it's tougher to parse through them. People in here say he's good but Brady's only had 3 OC's ever (god, Cutlah had more than that in 3 seasons), charlie Weis (lol), bill O brien (hou's coach) and mcdaniels. That's it, that's the list. I don't know what to give credit for when Weis looked good with Brady.
