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07-23-2014 , 11:24 PM

#5876

wheatrich

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Originally Posted by chim17

In Pat Bowlens 30 years he had more SB berths than he did losing seasons. Hit 300 wins.

I'm super bummed by this news. Hearing Elway not be able to keep it together makes me fear it's more serious than they let on.

I'd think most owners would have to be dead before giving up control like that so being a quite serious case was my first impression too.

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07-23-2014 , 11:35 PM

#5877

huet38

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RE: Barnwell, Eli Manning isn't a top 20 valuable QB, let alone a top 20 valuable player...like it's not close

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07-23-2014 , 11:46 PM

#5878

Palo

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Memory lapses were noticed in 2009 and he gave up control of football operations in 2011. Now, he's giving up the CEO title. If he's 5 years in from when symptoms started getting noticed then it's right on the cut line for early onset Alzheimer's. 65 is depressingly young to get Alzheimers. 70 is damn young, too. That's something most people don't get until their 80's.

Damn, just saw a CBS article that said the youngest patient ever diagnosed with early onset Alzheimers was 17.

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07-24-2014 , 12:23 AM

#5879

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Originally Posted by huet38

RE: Barnwell, Eli Manning isn't a top 20 valuable QB, let alone a top 20 valuable player...like it's not close

I'd be pretty shocked if going through all other NFL owners that you couldn't find one who wouldn't trade at least two firsts for Eli Manning. It's probably too brutal in NY media to actually deal him b/c of the flame you're going to get from casualfan.jpg but given how many holes are on that team and the probability you just upgraded the QB position... He should still have rather high trade value. #sortbyrangz

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07-24-2014 , 01:58 AM

#5880

jenningst77

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Originally Posted by vixticator

That's not entirely accurate. Let's look at his touches the last three (healthy) seasons.

2013- 259 carries, 70 receptions
2012- 285 carries, 35 receptions
2010- 230 carries, 45 receptions

This is definitely 'feature back' type work.

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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin

Well he's also not rushing for 6.9 ypc, either.

He used to come in fresh all the time b/c he got like 8 touches a game or something stupid.

He's elite don't get me wrong.

yeah his stats are slightly inflated because of the thomas jones and rookie year bull**** (thomas jones stuff was just soooooo inexcusably lol. he was so ****in bad) but it was kind of funny when some CBS talking head wrote "IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT HE ONLY AVERAGED 5.0 YARDS A CARRY THIS YEAR" today. he is really really really good. he isn't a priest holmes beasting behind a super elite offensive line. the chefs offensive line isn't even good nowadays

anyway the contract seems fine in today's day and age. oddly enough running backs do actually grow on trees but charles is a top 3 talent

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07-24-2014 , 02:10 AM

#5881

JMurder3

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Originally Posted by wheatrich

I'll give a shot at a top 25 (was gonna do 50 but that will take me too long) this is a bit rough but you're all welcome to change the order or add someone I forgot.

(btw damnit barnwell, yes carimi went before wilkerson but bears had less than zero need for a DE at the time and badly, badly, badly needed offensive line])

I guess this isn't a strict trade list b/c denver is never trading peyton for watt but perhaps a value list. Play and Contract matter (though obviously in NFL high contract isn't as big of a deal, you suck they just cut you, but having a stud on a rookie deal is amazing value wise) Good chance I forgot about someone and I'm not going to explain why in this order b/c of tl'dr reasons. Might be too low on a few rooks though.

15. Tom Brady
22. Nick Foles

I demand people give you more crap for this opinion because the other day when I said it I was told it was the dumbest thing some one had ever heard

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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin

It was funny last year when noted moron Chris Simms goes "Nobody knows who this guy is yet he's really good" and Jim Nantz chimed in with "Everybody who plays fantasy football at least knows who he is."

SimmsWOAT.

Is it an inside joke here to call Phil Simms Chris Simms cuz the son was so bad at football & the dad is so bad at commentary?

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07-24-2014 , 03:17 AM

#5882

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Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot

Charles officially a holdout.

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07-24-2014 , 06:31 AM

#5883

vixticator

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That's a great tweet

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07-24-2014 , 06:44 AM

#5884

clowntable

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Originally Posted by shane88888

These lists would actually be interesting without QBs.

QB market is more or less efficient.

Not an econ major but I doubt that a cap-ed market can ever be efficient.

+Flacco contract etc.

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07-24-2014 , 07:58 AM

#5885

CalledDownLight

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Please tell me that the Jamaal Charles tweet is the real reason he was declared a holdout.

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07-24-2014 , 08:41 AM

#5886

TJ Eckleburg12

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Falcons and Roddy White agree to a 4-year extension through the 2018 season. Terms not immediately available.

He's already 33, so that might get messy towards the end, but I think he could definitely be productive if healthy in the near-term.

I'm glad he'll finish his career in Atlanta.

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"I want to be here, no doubt about it," White said in December. "I've spent my whole career here, and I love the organization. I love everyone in it."

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07-24-2014 , 09:11 AM

#5887

vaya

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Gross

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07-24-2014 , 09:19 AM

#5888

AcTiOnJaCsOn

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Lolatl roddy is a WOAT and unbelievably stupid human being so gj cancering up the youth.

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07-24-2014 , 09:27 AM

#5889

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I agree that judging by his twitter, he's marginally literate,

but the dude's a warrior who had over 100 straight starts until an injury forced him to sit last year. He looked rusty when he came back but shook it off and was productive towards the end of the year.

He had 6 straight years of 80+ catches and 1100+ yards until last year. He's still a very productive and consistent player.

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07-24-2014 , 10:04 AM

#5890

dlk9s

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Oh, hey, First Take's first discussion is about the Cowboys.

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07-24-2014 , 10:19 AM

#5891

NDfan

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Ray Rice suspended only 2 games, what a joke. Meanwhile Josh Gordon is Satan.

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07-24-2014 , 10:21 AM

#5892

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Two games for nearly beating your girlfriend to death. Four games for weed. Sounds about right.

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07-24-2014 , 10:25 AM

#5893

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07-24-2014 , 10:26 AM

#5894

wheatrich

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blackmon arrested for weed

throw the book at him

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07-24-2014 , 10:28 AM

#5895

Namath12

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Originally Posted by wheatrich

blackmon arrested for weed

throw the book at him

http://kfor.com/2014/07/24/former-os...na-possession/

What a ****ing joke.

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07-24-2014 , 10:32 AM

#5896

Steroid Boy

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you'd think osu area cops would give him some leash

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07-24-2014 , 10:32 AM

#5897

vyk07

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Ray Rice suspended 2 games for knocking out his fiancée in a Revel elevator

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11...pended-2-games

Rice's now wife Janay remains apologetic

“I deeply regret the role I played in the incident that night.”

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07-24-2014 , 10:39 AM

#5898

nath

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Josh Gordon is about to be suspended for the year

Terrelle Pryor got five games for getting free tattoos in college, which the NFL doesn't even have adjudication over

Beat up a woman, two games

PFT was dead on:

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he’ll be back on the field by October, when the NFL wraps itself in pink to remind us how valuable their female customers are to them.