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04-26-2017 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
Bradford's contract expires after this year.
If that's your response to my comment, I obviously didn't word what I was trying to say very clearly haha.

In 2017, Bradford is the starter even if TBridge comes back I assume, so even if TBridge was a UFA, which I don't believe he would be if still injured, he'll be a UFA coming off a devastating knee injury who hasn't played in 2 years, so he wouldn't necessarily be in line for a giant contract that would make using the 5th year option prudent.

Bradford being a free agent after this year doesn't make paying TBridge over $10m guaranteed for injury necessarily more attractive.
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04-26-2017 , 05:38 PM
Oh, I thought you meant if Bridgewater sat behind Bradford in 2018. I doubt he'll play at all in 2017.
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04-26-2017 , 06:11 PM
Didn't read about the contract rollover and that does change the outlook for him but my reaction was the thought that even if they want to re up and keep Sam then a healthy/almost healthy Teddy is definitely a tradeable asset with a $10m salary and so them not taking up the option says a lot of bad stuff about his chances of playing football in the future

I really hope for his sake he comes back and again, hope he gets a decent insurance payout if he cant
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04-26-2017 , 06:17 PM
No NFL team is gonna trade for Teddy with that knee. Extra years on rookie deals have some injury guaranteed on it. They're never picking up the extra year option simply b/c of that.

I suspect he'll be out of the league whenever that's officially over; tis a shame.
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04-26-2017 , 06:42 PM
I been holding out hope for that 5th year option because it would bode well for his return. This PUP / roll over thing seems very likely to happen. I do think he will be on the team in '18. I knew this was a possibility but what I have just recently seen is that he potentially only needs to spend the first 6 weeks on the PUP for his final season to rollover. He was always going to spend the beginning of the season on the PUP anyways so if that is true it basically makes the 5th year option a non-talking point.

If he has to spend the entire season on the PUP tho, then you lose the ability to play him late in the season after Bradford inevitably gets hurt.

The length of time he needs to spend on the PUP for his contract to rollover is extremely relevant so kinda hard to judge this 5th yr option discussion until that's known for a fact. But obv it's not a good sign Anyways here is the relevant passage:

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Any player placed on a Physically Unable to Perform list (“PUP”) will be paid his full Paragraph 5 Salary while on such list. His contract will not be tolled for the period he is on PUP, except in the last year of his contract, when the player’s contract will be tolled if he is still physically unable to perform his football services as of the sixth regular season game.
Seems like he needs to spend 6 weeks on the PUP for Vikes to get a 5th yr option automatically added worth ~2m which would save them ~10m. Rapport's initial tweet said full year tho so who knows.
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04-26-2017 , 07:20 PM
Jfc joe thomas
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04-26-2017 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Jfc joe thomas
?
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04-26-2017 , 07:31 PM
04-26-2017 , 07:33 PM
so what exactly is wrong with what he said?
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04-26-2017 , 10:36 PM
Seems like a reasonable take
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04-26-2017 , 11:30 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure what Victor meant by his comment, I just posted the only Joe Thomas news.

Probably need selective amnesia to play for the Browns for that long anyway.
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04-27-2017 , 05:25 AM
Well he says he's not sure if it's due to football or old age (he's 32), then says being a painter has risks to your brain as well
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04-27-2017 , 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by dkgojackets
so what exactly is wrong with what he said?
He made some pretty dumb comments to delude himself into thinking that football didn't cause his memory issues.

His description of his memory loss is weird though because I have the same exact thing and have never put on a football helmet in my life. It's more of a nuisance than full-on Alzheimer's.
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04-27-2017 , 07:05 AM
So he's deluded into thinking football didn't cause his memory issues but you have the exact same issues but haven't ever played football?

Hmm
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04-27-2017 , 07:08 AM
His point was obviously every job has a trade off of some sort and he's willing to accept footballs.

He appears to have a surprising amount of self awareness for an athlete. Lol y'all.
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04-27-2017 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
He made some pretty dumb comments to delude himself into thinking that football didn't cause his memory issues.

His description of his memory loss is weird though because I have the same exact thing and have never put on a football helmet in my life. It's more of a nuisance than full-on Alzheimer's.
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
So he's deluded into thinking football didn't cause his memory issues but you have the exact same issues but haven't ever played football?

Hmm
maybe he forgot he played football
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04-27-2017 , 09:41 AM
That needs a Philosoraptor meme
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04-27-2017 , 01:50 PM
Guy on CNBC talking about safer helmets and the padding on the inside looks really similar to what hockey helmets started to look like 15 years ago. Why has football with like 100x the money as hockey and probably 100x the safety issues lagged so far behind hockey in player safety? Is it as simple lol Goodell?

Also, the company coming up with this new helmet has only raised $3 million in funding so far and is about to try and raise another $1 million. This is issue #1 for the NFL and it seems like the NFL just doesn't care.

The new helmet crumples a bit and has give, something that seems just so blatantly obvious to do that I don't understand how it took this long. Literally the 1st thing that should have been done to help player safety

Last edited by bigt2k4; 04-27-2017 at 01:55 PM.
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04-27-2017 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bigt2k4
Guy on CNBC talking about safer helmets and the padding on the inside looks really similar to what hockey helmets started to look like 15 years ago. Why has football with like 100x the money as hockey and probably 100x the safety issues lagged so far behind hockey in player safety? Is it as simple lol Goodell?
one, lol goodell

two, NFL players have the shortest careers so the only players with any power are the top franchise QB's, who seem to cater to ownership/NFL rather than fight for other players.

three, most NFL owners are old *******s who care more about their pocketbook and will ***** over buying one new football they might not need much less say 50+ new helmets despite their franchise being worth a billion and regard the players as just things to be used until they're not needed anymore and screw them. Player got career ending injury early? Let's get that signing bonus back. etc, etc, etc.

four, the NFL actually spent a lot of $ trying to COVER UP concussions being bad for people. They dgaf.

five--you've got this backwards, issue #1 for the NFL in their view is making $ hand over fist. Anything that subtracts from that (ie spending money on player safety) they'll fight pretty hard.
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04-27-2017 , 02:16 PM
Sorry, #1 long term issue in that it could eventually destroy the value of their investment down the road for their heirs
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04-27-2017 , 03:34 PM
My senior design project back in college was actually helmet-related. The problem was most helmets focus on preventing catastrophic injury. The padding is stiff enough to absorb almost all the energy from a big hit, but is often so stiff that it doesn't absorb any energy from a minor hit, leading to a concussion. We came up with a few ideas that would absorb energy in low collisions to prevent concussions while still having enough beef to prevent catastrophic injuries, but it wasn't a trivial problem.

I (knowing nothing about hockey helmets) doubt that hockey helmets are as catastrophe-focused as football helmets (and thus had more "give" to them) since helmets aren't really used as weapons in hockey.
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04-27-2017 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bigt2k4
Sorry, #1 long term issue in that it could eventually destroy the value of their investment down the road for their heirs
Yeah but pretty much all the current owners will be dead by the time that happens
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04-27-2017 , 05:31 PM
Joe Thomas seems about three years away from Curt Schilling territory with his blazing hot takes
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04-27-2017 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Joe Thomas seems about three years away from Curt Schilling territory with his blazing hot takes


My guess would be he's building his 'opinion giver brand and profile ' to line up his post football career
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04-27-2017 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
My guess would be he's building his 'opinion giver brand and profile ' to line up his post football career
That is if he can remember his playing career when it's over.
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