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Old 01-16-2017, 12:12 AM   #176
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Re: NFL Off-Season 2017

Yea I have zero to back that up, just thought I'd throw it out there
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Old 01-16-2017, 12:29 AM   #177
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Meh. Ryan plays in a dome all the time and rape basically never.
Ryan has far better road stats than Roeth.
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Old 01-16-2017, 12:32 AM   #178
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ARE YOU WATCHING?
Yes, and I saw Bell get out-produced from scrimmage by Devonta Freeman and Tevin Coleman in their respective playoff games

...again
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Old 01-16-2017, 12:36 AM   #179
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And again I'll say TY got more yards than Julio, so is TY better than Julio?
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Old 01-16-2017, 12:43 AM   #180
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And again I'll say TY got more yards than Julio, so is TY better than Julio?
It's not worth it, he's hopeless
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Old 01-16-2017, 12:52 AM   #181
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I will say that TY is probably a better deep threat than Julio, even though Julio is good at that too.

That's all TY does really well, he's a burner and gets open deep. Julio is better on in-breaking routes, catching in traffic, high-pointing the ball in the air, and he's a vastly superior run-blocker.
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Old 01-16-2017, 12:55 AM   #182
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I will say that TY is probably a better deep threat than Julio, even though Julio is good at that too.

That's all TY does really well, he's a burner and gets open deep. Julio is better on in-breaking routes, catching in traffic, high-pointing the ball in the air, and he's a vastly superior run-blocker.
So here it's the eye-test but with Bell it's just #STATS?
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Old 01-16-2017, 12:56 AM   #183
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If someone just agrees you with will you stop posting this bull****?
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Old 01-16-2017, 01:15 AM   #184
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I never said Bell was trash, he's obviously very good.

I just said I'd rather have Freeman and Coleman. Factor in age and contracts once Bell gets paid by the Steelers or someone else this offseason, and I don't think it's particularly close.

It was a bold thing to say when I said it, and those #STATS have shown me to be correct in the assertion that the Falcons backfield is, in fact, more productive.

That says more about how awesome the Falcons are than anything negative about Bell, that was the point I was making 3 months ago, and now.
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Old 01-16-2017, 03:30 AM   #185
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Out of the last 14 AFC champs after this year--13 of them were QB'd by brady/roeth/peyton

FLACCO has been our only savior.
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Old 01-16-2017, 03:58 AM   #186
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Maybe Tom Brady gets into a car accident and JimmyG has to QB for the Super Bowl hmmm
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Old 01-16-2017, 08:16 AM   #187
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I never said Bell was trash, he's obviously very good.

I just said I'd rather have Freeman and Coleman. Factor in age and contracts once Bell gets paid by the Steelers or someone else this offseason, and I don't think it's particularly close.

It was a bold thing to say when I said it, and those #STATS have shown me to be correct in the assertion that the Falcons backfield is, in fact, more productive.

That says more about how awesome the Falcons are than anything negative about Bell, that was the point I was making 3 months ago, and now.
No they haven't. First of all your original position was that the Falcons backfield was better in 2016 ignoring age and contracts, and you would refuse a 2016-only trade of Freeman/Coleman for Bell/Williams. You shifted those goalposts after Bell started destroying the entire league by midseason. GJGE.

The $tat$ show that Bell is more productive on a per game basis than either Falcons back, and is individually a better runner or receiver than either of them, which is obviously preferable for the playoffs. Bell and any replacement level back >>> Falcons backfield.

Especially in the playoffs, it is much more valuable to have an elite runner and receiver than two decent ones. Two nickels don't make a dime. This is true in basically all sports.
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:41 AM   #188
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zone running or gap?
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:43 AM   #189
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Random unsupported prediction: Leveon Bell is not one of the top running backs in the league 2 years from now because teams will adjust to his hopping and hole-seeking
Not that tough of a prediction considering the average career/peak of a running back is a few years.

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Ryan has far better road stats than Roeth.
Ryan also plays in New Orleans (another dome) and Carolina/Tampa.

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Old 01-16-2017, 10:47 AM   #190
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gotta give the guy credit for his PASSION. yeah the falcons played in perfect conditions against straight garbage defenses all seasons but so what thats sports man
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Old 01-16-2017, 11:34 AM   #191
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The Saints defense was pretty scary. Luckily get to play another garbage D next Sunday.
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Old 01-16-2017, 11:42 AM   #192
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Out of the last 14 AFC champs after this year--13 of them were QB'd by brady/roeth/peyton

FLACCO has been our only savior.
Brady (and Pats obviously) making the AFC CG in 11 of the 15 years he has been a starter is probably his most ridiculous stat
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Old 01-16-2017, 11:58 AM   #193
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Old 01-16-2017, 12:12 PM   #194
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Random unsupported prediction: Leveon Bell is not one of the top running backs in the league 2 years from now because teams will adjust to his hopping and hole-seeking
if there were a bunch a RB who could do it and it was a trend, maybe - but can't see teams coaching their defenses up right before playing Pitt
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Old 01-16-2017, 12:34 PM   #195
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Bell's style makes so much intuitive sense. Of course there will be resistance from the hit the hole as hard as you can crowd. Football is like turning around the titanic when it comes to change.
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Old 01-16-2017, 12:34 PM   #196
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Ryan also plays in New Orleans (another dome) and Carolina/Tampa.


Which one is Ryan, and which one is Ben

If outdoors was so hard, Ben wouldn't have such excellent home stats by comparison to his road stats.

Last edited by ashley12; 01-16-2017 at 12:35 PM. Reason: These are road stats for this season
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Old 01-16-2017, 12:41 PM   #197
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The Steelers OL probably not getting enough credit in the Bell discussion. I suspect Leveon wouldn't run the same way if he were behind the Rams OL because it just wouldn't work.
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Old 01-16-2017, 12:44 PM   #198
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Yeah Big Ben + Antonio Brown to worry about + good OL makes all the difference in the world.
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Old 01-16-2017, 01:22 PM   #199
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I had a nightmare last night that the Raiders had signed Ryan to be DC. Glad it turned out to be the Redskins.
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Old 01-16-2017, 01:22 PM   #200
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9ers job down to falcons offensive coordinator

and the seahawks offensive line coach. Just repeating this again... The seahawks offensive line coach.

Well, Shanahan 9ers do have a RB, that other stuff like franchise WR/some quality OL/franchise QB on the other hand...

also they don't have a GM still, which sounds hilariously dumb to hire another HC then hire a GM quickly after, but the seahawks kinda did that and in fact, they're interviewing a seahawks exec for it. I guess it has worked. Seems ridic tho.
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