the other biggest problem with "he'd snap improve 10 teams" you also need an offensive coach who'd actually use his skill set. It might literally be only BAL since he could just call up his bro. He's actually great for what Jax is talking about wanting to do this year with the offensive plan of "don't have blake bortles touch the football" if you're looking for additional ways to #stablish, he's the best available since RGIII's knee is dead.

So he's improving Cleveland, buf, Jax, nyg, bal, den, kc, and sf I guess but he's obviously not going back there. Handful of teams are close.

Jets actively trying to tank, everyone else has young QBs.

He doesn't improve buf, nyg imo. Browns are also tanking.

It's bal/jax/den in terms of anything realistic from the on field perspective (denver having a big gaping hole @ QB play but a good team otherwise, bal wants to win now and lol flacco'd, and bortles is the big hole on the jax roster atm).

The owner who would flip the bird to the NFL/rest of owners though? Where's al davis when we need him?

let's not forget the team was absolute AIDs including a WOAT D and pretty awful coaching staffs. I hate Kaep, but he isn't that bad he just isn't that great. He's definitely get blacklisted but he'll get a shot when some starter in the NFL goes out. There are likely 3-5 starters who will miss sometime next year, so he should get a shot, I'm not sure he will.

The 3 wins don't really indicate too much other than the team sucked.

Show your work. He's clearly better than the starters for NYJ, CLE, BAL, HOU, JAX, DEN, KC, PHI, CHI, LAR, SF. And he might even be better than a handful of others but I don't want to overreach to make my point.

What do you mean by "average"? If he was the 16th-best QB in the league teams should be jumping to sign him. It's practically impossible to peg him in a range that justifies him not having a job.

He might only make sense for a handful of teams with playoff aspirations to sign, but there's no reason the Broncos or Jaguars, for example, should unnecessarily saddle their defenses with weak quarterback play.

I'm just curious what metrics you're using for Kaep to suggest he's clearly better than all those starters and maybe others? TD/INT ratio is the only thing I can see in which he doesn't blow.

2015 Kaep had a worse DYAR and DVOA than anybody but the ghost of Peyton, Foles and Cassel. Last year worse than anybody but Keenum, Fitz, Brock and Goff. 32/35 ANY/A 2015, 23/30 2016. PFF gave him a lower adjusted completion percentage than Austin Davis when they were at Seahawks camp. How much is on him vs the garbage around him is worth debating I guess.

I mean whether it's racism, good old 'murican patriotism, distraction or whatever, it's stupid Kaep hasn't signed somewhere as a backup but the guy isn't very good.

Actual film study goes a long way, as do stats that cover the effects of bad teammates in a way DVOA/DYAR doesn't (like, for example, that he lost a completion to receiver error every 8.5 attempts, the lowest ratio in the league). Cian Fahey is a good start, but several others who have also reviewed Kaepernick's film conclude that he is solidly a good starter, and the excuses made that he isn't good enough are just that, excuses by teams and owners who will never hire him because they want to see him punished for speaking out.

solidly good starter omg

his good 2016 stats were entirely down to cowardly play against prevent defense btw. he spent the entire season trailing by multiple scores and went 1-11 (1-10 as a starter) but barely ever took a risk downfield. was instead happy to connect on 3 yard out routes until time ran out

9ers fans will confirm if they can bear to remember, and if not, here's an indicator



kaep 30th in air yards. his total is barely more than matt barkley who only played 7 games

since kaep missed 4 games his total must be pro-rata'd

tack on 33% to his total = 1504 yds which moves him up into 28th place, next door to notorious checkdown charlies such as alex smif and ryan tannehill (who have the excuse that their teams were often not losing by a million points). and he'd be lower if i could be bothered to pro-rata the people below him who didn't play the full year

disgraceful cowardice on the field of play

Still laughing at good starter

He didn't have a single nfl caliber position player on his team last year other than hyde who got hurt.

Also what in the world

"I hope we do what is best for the team and balance that with what is best for our fans," Bisciotti said. "Your opinions matter to us. … We’re very sensitive to it, and we’re monitoring it, and we’re trying to figure out what’s the right tact." Bisciotti said he is praying about the decision and asked fans to "pray for us.".

Thoughts and prayers to the billionaire ravens owner in these troubling times.

Seriously **** this entire sport right in the ass

Any stat that puts Brady and Osweiler next to each other is an obviously terrible one.

Yup that's a list all right

And Tyrod is #13 on that list

that list looks about as good as any qb ranking list ive seen except for mariota being weirdly low

tyrod taylor is pretty good, certainly would rather have him then the next couple of guys below him

Sorting that air yards thing by anything other than y/att is pretty silly. It's still low, but it's just ahead of Eli & Bradford, & further ahead of guys like Flacco, Bortles & Smiff.

It's obviously also a not very compelling stat in general as DWetz pointed out.

& who on the 49ers roster would it have been a good idea to throw the ball to deep?

I still don't think Kaep is better than a below average starter, though, although he should have a job & lolAmerica.

being high or low on that list is not necessarily good or bad. context mate

down multiple scores = gotta play a high variance style else you're conceding defeat. the 9ers spent the whole season down multiple scores

someone like BORT is god awful but at least he has the bollocks to start throwing it downfield when its the only possible out. kaep didnt gaf about giving his team a chance to win, kept taking the clock-sapping 6 yards on the ground that the prevent defense was gifting to him until the clock hit 0

no, totals are useful here b/c it shows how few risks kaep was prepared to take for his team

BOIDS,
You have Kraep > Semen, right? How far are you willing to go to punish a man for checking down and speaking up?

i dunno i haven't watched much semen

i have watched some brock tho and kaep > brock

This post is not wrong

Remember that time smith was uncovered when the niners were at their own 1 and Kaep STILL didn't audible out of an inside handoff?

Chipper isn't about qbs doing anything of significance through the air (see Badford, Sam's run as Philly qb where he had yuge completion % and like 2 yards a throw)

albert retires rather than playing for the jaguars. Jags get their 7th rd pick back.

Still lol jags.

Kraep sucks, end of story. He might be a good replacement for Assweiler, that's about it.

Houston, Phi, Chi, and LAR all recently invested 1st rounders on franchise QBs. Kaep is obviously an upgrade over them, but do you really think giving him playing time over the developing player "improves the team's fortune"?

Totally agree w/Jax and Denver. Don't see any reason for them to not sign Kaep.

The problem isn't that he's probably better than some starting QBs in he league, the problem is that for the teams where he'd be an improvement it's an improvement from like 4 to maybe 5 wins, and that's actually not a good thing in context

given that like 90% of starters seem to get injured every year, i'm guessing he'd be good to have around as a backup, especially for a team that cares about winning

still kinda mad that the Seahawks passed on him, and for the lamest of reasons, especially bc he'd probably make a decent backup Ru$tle
(for a variety of reasons)


re: Kraep's performance
fairly silly to ignore that the entire 29er franchise went to **** the last couple years
like the entire team was traded or quit
their coach was replaced by a hobo
i mean their leading receivers last year were Jeremy Kerley, Quinton Patton & Vance McDonald
a non-elite QB can only do so much with zero support