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I'm not going to act like I have any clue how to correctly assess OL play in isolation. I don't think it's debatable that Tenn has the superior OL. With that being said I think Mariota will make his OL look better more of the time than Winston. His footwork inside the pocket, mobility, and accuracy all impact his protection. Jameis avoids sacks well too but in a less conventional (see Roethlisberger) way.

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06-23-2017 , 02:53 PM

#2677

zoltanbuccos

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Tennessee's offense is absolutely stacked now and I could see them winning the AFC if New England slips.

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06-23-2017 , 03:15 PM

#2678

Perhaps Shimmy

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PFF had Tennessee as the #1 OLine, TB as the #23 this season.
Football outsiders had Ten as #4, TB as #21.

That's a pretty big disparity.

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06-23-2017 , 03:18 PM

#2679

Salva135

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I disagree that Brady is an anomaly. I think he's the beginning.

Give me one reason these guys can't keep doing what they're doing?

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06-23-2017 , 03:36 PM

#2680

TheNoodleMan

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The human body ages.

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06-23-2017 , 04:09 PM

#2681

wheatrich

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When Brady is done, it'll be overnight. Ie not a gradual one. There's been some very good 40 year old QB performances but it'll be a shocker historically if he's still playing at a high level in 2019.

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06-23-2017 , 04:26 PM

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BillNye

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Originally Posted by Perhaps Shimmy

PFF had Tennessee as the #1 OLine, TB as the #23 this season.
Football outsiders had Ten as #4, TB as #21.

That's a pretty big disparity.

You are misinterpreting the FO chart. TB was 15th in pass blocking. TEN 16th. They did have TEN w/ much better run blocking. TEN also has nothing resembling Mike Evans tho.

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06-23-2017 , 04:32 PM

#2683

Perhaps Shimmy

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Originally Posted by Salva135

I disagree that Brady is an anomaly. I think he's the beginning.

Give me one reason these guys can't keep doing what they're doing?

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06-23-2017 , 04:35 PM

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nath

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Originally Posted by wheatrich

To be fair he'll be 35 when that happens.

Way younger than 40 tho.

That said, Flacco would be facing competition now if his contract wasn't so ridiculous.

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06-23-2017 , 04:39 PM

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BillNye

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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod

my favorite dark horse team: HOU. They'll be adding JJ Watt to an already great defense and could replace an awful QB with Watson. Watson being a league average QB (granted, that's asking a lot) would be a massive upgrade for them

They're tied for 7th in superbowl odds with PITT (16-1). I think they're a bit overrated.

For long shots I like Chargers (75-1), young ascending talent on D: Bosa, Ingram, Hayward, Perryman. Verrett + Keenan Allen returning from injury. Added 2 likely starters on OL in Lamp and Feeney. Mike Williams +

Titans (40-1) Pretty much just can't get the GB game out of my head where they started w/ an onside, didn't get it, then went on to poop on them 47-25. Also I think Corey Davis is gonna be pretty good.

Last edited by BillNye; 06-23-2017 at 04:48 PM.

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06-23-2017 , 04:45 PM

#2686

nath

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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod

All true, but they also ran really good in close games last year, so even those improvements might just get them to the actual level of a 9-7 team.

They also lost A.J. Bouye and others and didn't sign a single free agent until like two days ago.

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stuff about Mariota

Mariota was really efficient last year, and he did it without much at receiver and with a dumbass coach running an offense almost exactly tailored against him.

I was a Winston > Mariota guy coming out of college but that was predicated in part on Winston's decision making getting better and cutting down on his interceptions. Hasn't really happened yet.

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06-23-2017 , 06:31 PM

#2687

thedeezy

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Titans had the most wins against playoff teams last year. Really liked what they've done and always liked Mariota

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06-23-2017 , 06:38 PM

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Caldarooni

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I actually can't remember if Tennessee fired their coach or not.

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06-23-2017 , 07:01 PM

#2689

REDeYeS00

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the biggest downside i see against Mariota (and this is a continuation from his college days that he apparently hasn't fixed) is his propensity to fumble the ball when facing pressure in the pocket. every time someone swipes at the ball he seems to cough it up.

on the bright side i've been impressed by the breadth of throws (and throws with touch) he's made at the pro level, as well as his immediate dismissal of all that pre- and post-draft bull**** about him not being able to take a snap from center/command a huddle/make multiple reads/etc.

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06-23-2017 , 08:31 PM

#2690

Salva135

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Originally Posted by Perhaps Shimmy

Do you even break your own news?

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06-23-2017 , 08:40 PM

#2691

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Originally Posted by thedeezy

Stafford is about to get so much money

And he's only 29 iirc so he has two more contracts

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06-23-2017 , 09:37 PM

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wheatrich

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No, PFF Byron Maxwell is still ****.
signed Eagles fans.

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06-24-2017 , 06:05 PM

#2693

SuperUberBob

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Originally Posted by Perhaps Shimmy

I lol'd irl

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06-27-2017 , 02:46 PM

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Fonkey123

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No one has brought up fairley yet in here??

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl...3053a74&sr=amp

Donezo this year maybe forevers.

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06-27-2017 , 07:42 PM

#2695

SuperUberBob

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Gotta feel for him.

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06-27-2017 , 10:30 PM

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Namath12

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Dolphins are playing the Ravens for the 5th year in a row and no one can tell me why

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06-27-2017 , 10:49 PM

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JMurder3

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Originally Posted by Namath12

Dolphins are playing the Ravens for the 5th year in a row and no one can tell me why

Parallel mediocrity? Always play the teams in the other divisions in your conference who finish the same place as you, plus every 3 years you play that whole division.

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06-27-2017 , 10:51 PM

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72off

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http://deadspin.com/vince-young-take...her-1796460067

to the surprise of absolutely no one, Vince Young says Jeff Fisher is a massive *******

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Young recounts closed-door meetings with Fisher in which both men agreed to keep their conversation private; the next day, he says, he’d read Fisher’s side—his exact words—in the local papers. Young says he would sometimes arrive early for a meeting, only to learn it had been canceled, unannounced, and that the coach was out fishing with [Kerry] Collins.

Young describes an incident from November of his rookie season when he left his ID at home before a road game against the Eagles. As he tells it, he went to retrieve it and was then held up by a funeral procession en route to the team plane, so he called Fisher to say he would be two minutes late. Young had seen Fisher hold the plane for other players, but this time he did not. “I feel like Fisher did that **** on purpose,” he says. “I’m pulling in, seeing them pull the door down. I can hear the team yelling.” As Young stood on the tarmac, grounded, he could only watch as the team he was supposed to lift into the playoffs soared into the sky without him.

Years later, Young says he sent Fisher a letter, apologizing for his immaturity, lamenting what might have been. Fisher never responded, and Young still vacillates between shouldering and assigning blame. He says, “I forgive him” and “I still regret it.” He also says, “I guess he doesn’t give two ****s about me.”

get 'em

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06-27-2017 , 10:55 PM

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jh12547

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Originally Posted by JMurder3

Parallel mediocrity? Always play the teams in the other divisions in your conference who finish the same place as you, plus every 3 years you play that whole division.

This

2013 and 2016 the AFC east played the AFC north. 2014 and 2015 both teams were 3rd in their division the previous year and last year they were both 2nd