Wasn't sure if I wanted to do this or not, but I got a few PMs requesting it recently so I figured I would. A few days ago, I cleared out my PM inbox so if you PMed me to ask to save you a spot then I'm sorry but you have to sign up here or you won't be in.

It will be a bit similar to the NBA one, but with some differences too. Below I'm going to list two sets of rules. The first are rules that are set in stone. The second are rules that I'm willing to listen to the majority and then decide how to go about it.

Set in stone rules:

We will be drafting NFL players from recent NFL years. You must draft 22 players, 11 on offense and 11 on defense. You may use any legal formation.

We will not be drafting backups as it will simply take too long.

You can get the player at any age you wish as long as they were in the NFL at that age. You may indeed take a player at his current age.

We will be playing one NFL season, so draft as if all you care about is winning immediately. We will not be drafting in order to build a franchise for the future. I choose to do things this way because theres simply too many short careers in the NFL and I didn't want longevity to dominate the value of each player so much.

Assume current NFL rules.

Although I still disagree, I understand the argument for a time limit, so we'll go with a 24 hour time limit. Hopefully this makes everyone happier this time.

If you do not have time to do a writeup for each pick then I'd ask you to not participate. Discussion is very much encouraged.

We will again use a reverse snake draft where if you pick first in the 1st round then you pick last in the 2nd and last in the 3rd and then first in the 4th. Then that 4 round cycle repeats until we are done. Draft order will randomly be determined by me. Just to clarify heres a 10 round snake draft between 5 teams(A, B, C, D, and E):

Round 1
A
B
C
D
E

Round 2
E
D
C
B
A

Round 3
E
D
C
B
A

Round 4
A
B
C
D
E

Round 5
A
B
C
D
E

Round 6
E
D
C
B
A

Round 7
E
D
C
B
A

Round 8
A
B
C
D
E

Round 9
A
B
C
D
E

Round 10
E
D
C
B
A








Rules up for discussion:

40 owners worked well in the NBA. Should we strive for 40 again?

Kicker, punter, coach?

Which year do we want the cutoff to be? 1979 worked well for the NBA. Does everyone agree to that? That would mean that you may not draft any player who played in a game before 1979.





Unless mentioned above, everything else will be similar to the NBA draft. I'm sure I left some things out though, so feel free to ask questions BEFORE WE START in order to clarify things please.


To be in just post "in" in this thread. Please do not PM me as I don't want to get a ton of PMs to answer the same question multiple times. Also please don't bother telling me that you'll maybe be in. If you want in, then clearly state so in this thread. If you are not sure yet, then wait until you are sure before posting.

In so far:
1. Assani Fisher

in

im in.

the cutoff year should be much much later imo, there are too many players, and also far more to consider than in the nba. cutoff should be 1990 at least, and maybe even as late as 2000 and we would still easily pull it off

kickers and punters seem pretty unnecessary, especially since they would all be our very last picks. coaches is debatable, because personally i want to discuss having different strategies/systems than most coaches

40 players would be a super long draft...looking forward to it tho

In.

I probably know way less than most people on here about football history etc, but it still should be fun to do. Just don't laugh at my picks.

I'd love to be in, but I don't think there is a BRef equivalent for football, so I'd do terribly. Should be fun to watch though

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/

I'll listen to other opinions regarding the year, but I disagree with you in general I think. How are there more players to consider than in the NBA? I mean, yes theres 11 guys on the field compared to 5 in the NBA, but for each position its still the same. Theres still only 32 starting QBs each year for example just as theres 28(I think thats how many NBA teams there are) starting centers in the NBA.

Anyway, other people chime in here. I'll have final say, but I'm definitely willing to listen.

1. Assani Fisher
2. Steroid Boy
3. SMIGLET
4. SarcasticRat

I'll keep this updated...let me know if I overlook anyone.

22, not 11, but youre right i might be overstating it a little. however i still think 1979 is pretty early when you consider relatively how nfl careers are much shorter than those of the nba.

I'm in...

Here are my $0.02 for rules

Start it in 79 or 80 again and limit it to 32 Owners. The draft will take a while but who cares? The funnest part it is the discussion. I think in the NFL draft though drafting coaches would be necessary because of the different kind of styles of offense and defense. I would vote for selecting a OC/DC and Head Coach.

Roster Spots

Offense

2-QB
3-RB/FB
4-WR/TE (Must have 1 TE)
5-OL

Defense

4-DL
4-LB
2-CB
2-Safeties

1-Punter
1-Kicker
1-Returner

It'll be 32 rounds (Including 3 coaches) so it'll be a beast of a draft but boy wouldn't it be fun?

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def think drafting kickers/punters is gay, coaches is fine by me if we draft or don't cause i don't care much either way.

I think 40 teams is too many, would much rather do 30-32.

1. Assani Fisher
2. Steroid Boy
3. SMIGLET
4. SarcasticRat
5. BiiiigChips
6. EPiPeN11

I understand your thinking and I agree that it'd be fun...but I just don't think its practical to expect to get that many dedicated owners who will stay dedicated for that long. Just look at how the NBA draft deteriorated by round 9 or 10.

Concensus so far is that kicker and punter are unneccessary. Everyone please vote on coaches:

Option A: Head Coach
Option B: Head Coach, O Coordinator, D Coordinator
Option C: No head coach, just run whatever system you decide

I vote option C.

Yea thinkin about it more i'd rather not draft any coaches and use their spot for backups or something, I feel like this is good imo

Offense

QB
2 RB's (fullbacks are gay)
2 WR
1 TE
1 WR/TE
LT
LG
C
RG
RT

Defense

4 dline
4 lb
3 CB
1 FS
1 SS

Which is 25 rounds

Well, in that case...I'm in.

I think part of the reason for the NBA draft falling apart at the end is that the NBA is really a 2 or 3 man sport with a bunch of role players. I for one was really into the draft for about 6 rounds but I really wasn't into arguing with people over Dwayne Schintzius being a better 9th man than Phil Nevitt. With the NFL draft you are going to have a 11 or so distinct positions as oppossed to the NBA where it's just 4 or 5 depending on what positions you consider interchangeable. I think there is just alot more room for argument in football and it is just deeper. The NFL draft will probably slow down also but it will be in the late 20s as opposed to the 9s and 10s on a basketball team. There are 53 players on a team and we are only drafting 29 under my system so basically half a team. In the NBA we were more or less drafting a whole team 10/12 so depth was an issue and people lost interest with arguing over scrubs. I don't think that problem will be as severe in the NBA draft. I think 22 rounds is shortchanging the NFL draft. I think you must have a back up qb and 3 rbs to account for the FB position. Scheme and personnel to match is such a big part of football that I think you have to pick coaches also.

Definitely in.

I'd love to do a full roster draft, but I think only the diehards would actually keep it up.

1979 is a little arbitrary, I feel. Let's aim for something specific. Off the top of my head Tampa Bay and Seattle entering the league come to mind (1976). I'm not sure if that's too long though. Some rule change would be ideal... I think the end of the Steelers' dynasty marks the "modern era" pretty well.

We *could* do kickers and punters but if we don't have backups nobody will draft them until the last two picks anyway. Personally, I'd like to see a 46-man roster (22 offense, 22 defense, K, P) but again, I know most people would lose interest.

Also I really hope I get to write about my favorite hypothetical ever

I think you need 3 for the RB spot to account for a FB.
Our WR TE requirement is the same
Our O-line is the same
You added a nickel back which is fine I can take it or leave it
I don't think you can leave of Kicker, Punter and Returner either. Special Teams are a big part of the game. I think it would be a mistake to leave it off altogether.
I've expressed my thoughts on coaches in the above thread.

Alright I can go with no coaches - C. I really think leaving off Punter, K and returner is bad though. yeah it's not sexy to talk about but come on we are going to really seriously talk about building a team for a season and leave off special teams? It's 3 more rounds. Why be lazy about it?

I'm in. Tony Boselli first pick IMO.

Guys, the rules that are set in stone(such as 11 offensive player and 11 defensive players to be drafted) are not up for debate. Sorry if you feel as if thats dictatorish on my part. I am very willing to listen regarding the second set of rules or rules that I neglected to mention.

The reason I do this is because its tough for me to organize everything and listening to a million different opinions on every single issue is just too much for me. Again, sorry if this upsets anyone.

1. Assani Fisher
2. Steroid Boy
3. SMIGLET
4. SarcasticRat
5. BiiiigChips
6. EPiPeN11
7. EvanJC
8. nath
9. Needle77

wow....now we're going into the NFL realm!!!! This is going to be awesome and insane all at once!

IM IN...but a couple of questions...

1. This will take FOREVER!!! (yes, thats my question)

2. Will there be a 24 hour rule?

3. Can BiiiigChips invite his friend to be in this again?

4. Leave punters off the list, and seiriously - try to condense this chit as much as possible...40 picks per round would be insane!!!

5. I hate to admit this, but I agree with Epips post 100%. (edit: with the exception of the WR/TE spot...useless imo, just make it a WR spot)

6. Is Kevin McHale eligible for this draft? If so, I know someone who could come up with endless reasons to why he would be a great pick.

7. Lets take some bets on how long this whole process will take. It is October the 3rd today...(obv depends on number of rounds and numbers of owners)...I say~July??? After a couple of players drop out and a couple more get banned (HSPesque)

Oh and adding another rule now, and this is not up for debate:

No talking about undrafted players.

First offense is a warning.

Second offense within 3 days of the first offense is dropping 10 spots in your next pick.

Third offense within 3 days of the first is out of the draft.

And obviously anyone intentionally finding loopholes by doing it exactly every 4 days is going to be kicked out.



I dont' care if you agree or disagree with this rule. It is a rule. You are welcome to not participate if you don't like it.