That's not what he's saying if you read carefully. Also, are you ignorant of just how absurdly dominant the '94 Pedo offense was? No USC offense was ever that good.

My first impression is that I'm not a big fan of these grades. Guice and Chubb are too low. I like Ronald Jones but teams seem lower on him than pure on-field would warrant.

As far as your Michel criticism, how many teams are there that even still run out of the I on first down in the NFL in 2018? The Jags and Fournette basically? Michel's talent / skill set seems a better fit with the modern NFL than most. I love Chubb's talent but there is some concern he won't be at his pre-injury level, when he was absolutely dominant (like, "Gurley or Chubb?" was a real question dominant).

Dalvin Cook was a 6.2, Mixon a 6.0 and Kamara a 5.9. You figure Guise (6.2) and Chubb are too low at those scores compared them? That's interesting.

Well, Barkley is too high then. Where did Fournette and McCaffrey grade? I think the order is wrong regardless; Guice should be ahead of Jones, and Michel and Chubb shouldn't be nearly as far back of them as they are.

Fournette 6.8 so mega elite, and McCaffrey 6.0

For reference Zeke was 7.0, both Howard and Henry 6.1


So they've been pretty darn good with these 5.9-6 guys jumping right into really meaningful NFL roles of late. The only 2 that I think they got dead wrong are maybe Ajayi, maybe Aaron Jones, maybe Cohen. But for now their low grades might not be THAT off.

im also a big fan of justin jackson out of northwestern and could see him having a kamara lite impact on the right team

Quote is from the other thread but wanted to address it in here, is this higher than Mandarich at tackle was?

NFL and scouts values nastiness over actual ability so grades don't mean that much to me especially when Josh Allen gets over 90 despite being unable to complete passes, a stat that nobody has ever improved in the NFL vs college (with a reasonable sample size) to my knowledge.

scrolled through the Miami/LSU games of Quentin Nelson and he is great at everything

except when he has to move it can get iffy. His athleticism isn't on the great tier even for his position so the athletic interior guys will beat him a time or two.

As a DC I would've done what LSU did a few plays then stopped when it was working--send a delayed blitzer right through Nelson's hole. If there's room he can get by before Nelson is finished with the other block.

That all said, when Nelson gets his hands on you or hits first at the point of attack that defender is doomed. Also Nelson obliterates anyone who flat foots (those LB's that like to watch and react, he'll just run at them when he sees that and send them flying)

He might end up having to move to right guard in some schemes but he might well go top 5 in this draft, a guard went 7th not too long ago.

Overall college completion % is pretty disingenuous especially since three of those players had significant freshman-year experience

Stafford and Taylor significantly improved over the course of their college careers

Cutler's numbers are depressed by a 48.6% completion rate as a freshman, and he was carrying the worst team in the SEC

McCown just isn't good

What's Josh Allen's excuse for having a top-10 defense in a soft conference and still leading one of the worst passing offenses in FBS and not improving at all from 2016 to 2017

Nath,
What odds would you lay that Allen never makes a Pro Bowl?

Makes fewer Pro Bowls than Lamar Jackson?

Immediately off the top of my head I'd say 3:1 / 4:1.

Another fun Allen tidbit

I should've qualified my remark as nath pointed out but I'm real glad the counter point is Josh McCown, Jay Cutler, Tyrod Taylor, Matt Stafford. All great reasons to draft josh Allen 1st overall. (Phil Simms might be in there too, just b/c of how hilariously bad his college stats actually are)

Allen is massive bust waiting to happen and I hope the Bills stay far, far away from him

Let the Browns draft Allen for maximum lolz

Primarily because I'm afraid the Giants will take him.

I'm rooting for Allen, he reminds me of an untalented Vinny.

I'm still not really sure who I want the Jets to take, but I think I'd go Darnold/Rosen/Mayfield and would be happy with any of them

I can't say I'm rooting for Allen after he did his whole "It's my teammates' fault I wasn't better in 2017" thing. That said, I generally don't root against prospects (except for whatever vindication comes from being right); I just mostly root for my teams not to draft ones I don't think will be good.

Supposedly the Jets had Mayfield in for a visit a day or two ago and were big fans. Also heard a rumor that the Giants only want Darnold and if he's gone they'll take Barkley or Chubb, which would be hilarious.

Is there any doubt thy if Mayfield were 6-3 he’d be the #1 pick?

ie, apart from ‘personality issues’ is there anything about his play that teams/evaluators don’t like?

well, his inexperience as a dropback QB and footwork are the only things I've heard....but yeah, he's the one QB in the draft I think is the almost a sure thing. His floor is an average starter.

Giants taking Chubb/Saquon but missing out on the Jets trade (whether because of some NY-NY rivalry or not) would be so terribly sad. 1 of Chubb/Saquon will be there at 6 like 95% of the time.

Doubtful that's the case tho. Would love to bet on Giants drafting QB.

if the giants take anyone other than rosen they are idiots

Orvlosky might know what he is talking about but that clip is a terrible reason to hate on Allen. My best guess is Josh Allen was sure that the RB was in pass protection into a route, aka Chip and Run. Orvlosky is pretending to know that the RB is 100% correct and Allen is 100% wrong in that play. The whole "have a plan" is great if you expect a player next to you to do the basics of their job.

There is plenty of plays to hate on Allen and there are plenty of plays to love about Allen. If Vixticator was doing draft videos he'd watch Allen and have a fit over how elite he is based on the top plays. It's worked for Vixt in the past for non-QBs.

I don't think Allen is drawing dead as a NFL QB. He definitely needs to be coached, he definitely needs time, but he definitely flashes at times.

With that said, if you are drafting Allen because of his flashes, that's fine, but you better not draft him before Lamar Jackson and DEFINITELY not before Baker Mayfield based on flashes.

Would you hate if they took Joe Thomas 2.0 at #2?

Also must be nice to do NFL content and not have your hard work disappear because the NFL took it down.

yes

how have joe thomas' teams done