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12-08-2018 , 11:28 PM

#251

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Forgot about Henry. Whoops

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12-09-2018 , 01:31 AM

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Figured it'd be Murray after the markets turned upside down, it's fine he's got some gaudy numbers and the team's good.

Also

Snaps played by #Heisman finalists in 2018:

Dwayne Haskins: 1,009
Kyler Murray: 807
Tua Tagovailoa: 588

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12-09-2018 , 05:31 AM

#253

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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93

True, LSU has upgraded from Hallman (39-39 career record) to Orgeron (40-36)

Hallman at LSU: 16-28
Orgeron at LSU: 24-9

But, yeah, feel free to bump this if Coach O gets fired from Muscle Shoals High School 15 years from now.

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12-09-2018 , 05:36 AM

#254

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Originally Posted by Namath12

Part of me suspects that the knowledge Murray is probably not coming back influenced the decision-- I bet there was a certain % of voters who figured they could give it to Tua next year if he keeps it up

And as far as the award goes, they were very close on efficiency-- Murray advantage on Y/A, Tua on TD/A (and both of them broke Baker Mayfield's AY/A record)-- and Murray had more volume so I'm fine with it

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12-09-2018 , 07:01 AM

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First thought, Bama could make a run at 900 yards in this game. Second thought the Okie QB is one of the special players in terms of winning time (to wit shootouts and high school career). Third thought, that winning time effect might be moot if your team gets shoved off the field and is staggering like an exhausted boxer by the 3rd quarter. 4th I don't know if this effect of Bama strength will totally skew the game, like a 500 pd. sumo wrestler against a bantamweight ... or not. Just gonna view wondering if the 15 point line is way to low or too high. Cauz I sure don't have an inkling.

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12-09-2018 , 10:56 AM

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Yeah I agree. Bamabros are HOT right now over that stat, Murray had three + more games worth of snaps, Saban finally starts pulling his star QB from games that are out of reach and it costs us the Heisman, etc, but let’s face it Tua lost it in the Georgia game. The betting markets tell us this.

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12-09-2018 , 11:27 AM

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Can't very well give the Heisman to a guy who got yanked from the biggest game of the year.

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12-09-2018 , 01:33 PM

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On the bright side at least Tua was able to stay healthy...oh, oh, oh...oh.

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12-09-2018 , 01:45 PM

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Heisman is pretty dumb. Tua clearly the best player this yr.

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12-09-2018 , 01:54 PM

#260

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Originally Posted by nath

Hallman at LSU: 16-28
Orgeron at LSU: 24-9

But, yeah, feel free to bump this if Coach O gets fired from Muscle Shoals High School 15 years from now.

Didn't know this was such srs business for you, but they only played Hallman one time. The era I was talking about was early 80s when they went to LSU 5 years in a row without a return trip and won 4. That's the type of thing that gets an unknown program on the map. They were already in the national spotlight by the time they beat Hallman. They beat McClendon to kick off the streak, who was a pretty damn good coach.

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12-09-2018 , 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93

It's not serious for me, but my memories of the team mostly start with the Hallman years, and he was terrible. (How do you average 4-7 at LSU?)

You know things are bad when hiring a guy from Vanderbilt is exciting and making the Weed Eater Bowl doubly so.

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12-09-2018 , 02:31 PM

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Hey now, the Weed Eater Bowl was a classic!

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12-10-2018 , 01:33 PM

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AP All America team announced

https://www.apnews.com/fae9919b680940b9894dd530493690bb

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FIRST TEAM

OFFENSE

Quarterback — Kyler Murray, junior, Oklahoma

Running backs — Jonathan Taylor, sophomore, Wisconsin; Darrell Henderson, junior, Memphis

Tackles — Jonah Williams, junior, Alabama; Mitch Hyatt, senior, Clemson

Guards — Beau Benzschawel, senior, Wisconsin; Bunchy Stallings, senior, Kentucky

Center — Garrett Bradbury, senior, North Carolina State

Tight end — Jace Sternberger, junior, Texas A&M

Wide receivers — Jerry Jeudy, sophomore, Alabama; Marquise Brown, junior, Oklahoma

All-purpose player — Rondale Moore, freshman, Purdue

Kicker — Andre Szmyt, freshman, Syracuse

DEFENSE

Ends — Clelin Ferrell, junior, Clemson; Sutton Smith, junior, Northern Illinois

Tackles — Quinnen Williams, junior, Alabama; Christian Wilkins, senior, Clemson

Linebackers — Josh Allen, senior, Kentucky; Devin White, junior, LSU; Ben Burr-Kirven, senior, Washington

Cornerbacks — Deandre Baker, senior, Georgia; Julian Love, junior, Notre Dame

Safeties — Grant Delpit, sophomore, LSU; Deionte Thompson, junior, Alabama

Punter — Braden Mann, junior, Texas A&M

SECOND TEAM

OFFENSE

Quarterback — Tua Tagovailoa, sophomore, Alabama

Running backs — Travis Etienne, sophomore, Clemson; Trayveon Williams, junior, Texas A&M

Tackles — Dalton Risner, senior, Kansas State; Andrew Thomas, sophomore, Georgia

Guards — Dru Samia, senior, Oklahoma; Michael Dieter, senior, Wisconsin

Center — Ross Piersbacher, senior, Alabama

Tight end — T.J, Hockenson, sophomore, Iowa

Wide receivers — Tylan Wallace, sophomore, Oklahoma State; Andy Isabella, senior, Massachusetts

All-purpose player — Greg Dortch, sophomore, Wake Forest

Kicker — Cole Tracy, senior, LSU

DEFENSE

Ends — Montez Sweat, senior, Mississippi State; Jachai Polite, junior, Florida

Tackles — Jerry Tillery, senior, Notre Dame; Gerald Willis III, senior, Miami

Linebackers — Devin Bush, junior, Michigan; David Long Jr., junior, West Virginia; Joe Dineen, senior, Kansas

Cornerbacks — Greedy Williams, sophomore, LSU; Byron Murphy, sophomore, Washington

Safeties — Taylor Rapp, junior, Washington; Amani Hooker, junior, Iowa

Punter — Mitch Wishnowsky, senior, Utah

THIRD TEAM

OFFENSE

Quarterbacks — Dwayne Haskins, sophomore, Ohio State

Running backs — Benny Snell, junior, Kentucky; Eno Benjamin, sophomore, Arizona State

Tackles — Andre Dillard, senior, Washington State; Cody Ford, junior, Oklahoma

Guards — Terrone Prescod, senior, North Carolina State; Chris Lindstrom, senior, Boston College

Center — Michael Jordan, junior, Ohio State

Tight end — Noah Fant, junior, Iowa

Wide Receivers — A.J. Brown, junior, Mississippi; David Sills IV, senior, West Virginia

All-purpose player — J.J. Taylor, sophomore, Arizona

Kicker — Matt Gay, senior, Utah

DEFENSE

Ends — Chase Winovich, senior, Michigan; Jaylon Ferguson, senior, Louisiana Tech

Tackles — Jeffery Simmons, junior, Mississippi State; Ed Oliver, junior, Houston

Linebackers — Paddy Fisher, sophomore, Northwestern; David Woodward, sophomore, Utah State; Te’Von Coney, senior, Notre Dame

Cornerbacks — Hamp Cheevers, junior, Boston College; Lavert Hill, junior, Michigan

Safeties — Andre Cisco, freshman, Syracuse; Jonathan Abram, senior, Mississippi State

Punter — Jason Smith, sophomore, Cincinnati

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12-10-2018 , 04:05 PM

#264

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Originally Posted by JimHalpert

It depends on what you mean by sustainable.

Ebbs and flows of down years and high peaks like almost every other major school in the state? Sure. Look at Florida for example. Last 6 years have stretches of bad (4 wins, 4 wins), mediocrity (7 wins) and good years (9 wins, 9 wins, 10 wins). Florida State has 10, 10, 7, and 5 wins. Miami has 5, 10, 9, 8, 6, 9, 7, 6 wins in their last handful of years. UCF has similar peaks and valleys at 13, 12, 6, 0, 9, 12, 10, 5, and 11.

If you mean sustainable as in being undefeated every year? Of course not. Nobody but Bama gets that level of sustainability.

I think there's a big miscommunication going on with the team nationally. They aren't saying "We are now a bonafide top top program forever deal with it". They are saying "Hey, we think we've proven over the course of almost a decade that we have a lot in common with a lot of other programs you give respect to. We've won major bowl games (twice now and have a third opportunity coming up!), we've lost a great team and recruited well enough to get back into a great spot which shows it wasn't just a fluke to get those players, and we've put together a string of winning seasons that not many other people have been able to do (even those that have similar schedules!). You don't ask UNC or Iowa or Nebraska to do 2-1s if you want to schedule them. We don't think it makes sense for you to ask that of us either."

Or maybe that's just how I feel and the AD actually thinks the former. **** if I know

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Top 10 programs don't schedule two-for-one series where the balance is not in their favor.

He should learn the difference between being ranked in the top 10 and being a top 10 program.

It must be embarrassing to bring in the 70th ranked class as a top 10 program in the richest talent state in the US

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12-10-2018 , 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by younguns87

This is from your AD:

He should learn the difference between being ranked in the top 10 and being a top 10 program.

It must be embarrassing to bring in the 70th ranked class as a top 10 program in the richest talent state in the US

as embarrassing as ducking an instate rival who recruits in the 70s?

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12-10-2018 , 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by younguns87

It must be embarrassing to bring in the 70th ranked class as a top 10 program in the richest talent state in the US

More or less embarrassing than averaging the 10th best recruiting class over the last decade and playing roughly .500 ball?

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12-10-2018 , 11:11 PM

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This Ucf Uf war is cute.

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12-10-2018 , 11:41 PM

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I should think UCF could make some headway in recruiting with the simple "Come to UCF so you don't have to live in one of Florida's two worst cities".

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12-10-2018 , 11:49 PM

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Younguns should probably just cut his losses at this point.

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12-11-2018 , 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking

as embarrassing as ducking an instate rival who recruits in the 70s?

UCF ducked Florida twice and paid florida to do it once. not even sure how it got started that Floridas ducking UCF

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More or less embarrassing than averaging the 10th best recruiting class over the last decade and playing roughly .500 ball?

Less. Hence why the guys who were responsible for that are now fired

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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93

Younguns should probably just cut his losses at this point.

Thank god FSU is sticking with Willie

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12-11-2018 , 01:52 AM

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Thank god FSU is sticking with Willie

Worst season in nearly 4 decades and he's still crushing UF in 'crootin.

Congrats on that 1 win out of 6 though.

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12-11-2018 , 11:00 PM

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So the candidates for the two-team 40/1 parlays in the bowls shape up like Notre Dame, UCF, Northwestern and Oklahoma.

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12-14-2018 , 12:17 AM

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Gonna' try to put up a "little bowls" thread tomorrow for games starting Saturday--everything except playoffs and New Years games. I'd figure separate threads for playoffs, NY6, and the championship game, but if any superfans want to make a whole thread for their big bowl; have at it.

Oh, can anyone tell me why we call it the "New Year's Six" when there are five of them?

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12-14-2018 , 03:02 AM

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Why does the "Big 10" have 14 teams?

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12-14-2018 , 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Holliday

Can we just do an all bowls thread? And then have the playoffs in a separate thread? We go thru this every year because there are “little bowls” on January 1st as well as “big bowls” and idiots don’t know what thread to post in. Just make an all bowls thread it’s easier. Ya know people won’t read and start posting in the wrong thread. Separate thread for playoff games

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