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12-11-2013 , 08:10 AM
#guywithwifi SABAN'S WIFE BOUGHT GREEN BANANAS IN AUSTIN
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12-11-2013 , 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
Where did you get this "info"?
Reliable sources.
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12-11-2013 , 09:01 AM
I was hoping you would say "trusted" sources, and I was going to jam. Now I think I'll "just call."
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12-11-2013 , 09:04 AM
Saban getting paged at the Austin airport is one of the best trolls I've ever heard of. I wonder how many people actually went looking for him.
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12-11-2013 , 09:17 AM
Agreed, that was brilliant. Hoping no trouble for whoever did it.

I won't be "mad" if Saban leaves, and to be honest I think a lot of Bama "fans" would be getting exactly what they deserved, but I will definitely be sad/disappointed that we'd miss out on a lifetime of Saban/Malzahn grudge matches. I imagine you would be similarly disappointed on that narrow aspect although much more ambivalent overall.

Just seems like those two staying on board until one retires would be the best possible thing for the Iron Bowl.
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12-11-2013 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by vaya
Texas can be mediocre if they make a bad hire just like any other school. The difference between them and historical powerhouses like ND/UM is that there's no question that a good coach can build UT back into a national power relatively quickly.

ETA: I don't mean that ND/UM can't be national powers, it's just they have declining recruiting bases and don't have an outsized share of the national consciousness the way they did when, for example, ND's NBC contract was a huge deal and made them the most-watched college program.
It's a prime job with top resources and recruiting potential. It also comes with more politics and groups of *******s with power than any other competitive program. For all their advantages, they've actually been nationally relevant for about 5 years of my lifetime--and most of that was without any other Texas school being nearly as competitive as TAMU, TCU, or Baylor are today. Meh.
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12-11-2013 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
Agreed, that was brilliant. Hoping no trouble for whoever did it.

I won't be "mad" if Saban leaves, and to be honest I think a lot of Bama "fans" would be getting exactly what they deserved, but I will definitely be sad/disappointed that we'd miss out on a lifetime of Saban/Malzahn grudge matches. I imagine you would be similarly disappointed on that narrow aspect although much more ambivalent overall.

Just seems like those two staying on board until one retires would be the best possible thing for the Iron Bowl.
Yeah, for sure I'd be disappointed in a way. The Iron Bowl has a a chance to be the biggest rivalry in sports over the next decade if those two continue on their trajectories and that will bring a lot of recruits to Auburn and just make Auburn better overall. I already can't wait until next year. But I still want him to leave, just for the lols. Bama's next coach is ****ed. Going to be a rude awakening.
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12-11-2013 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Sly Caveat
Yeah, for sure I'd be disappointed in a way. The Iron Bowl has a a chance to be the biggest rivalry in sports over the next decade if those two continue on their trajectories and that will bring a lot of recruits to Auburn and just make Auburn better overall. I already can't wait until next year. But I still want him to leave, just for the lols. Bama's next coach is ****ed. Going to be a rude awakening.
I suppose that if we continue this line of thinking, I'm *actually* supposed to root for Auburn in the MNC this year, puke. But the teams combining for the past FIVE national championships really would put things on that course of laying claim to best rivalry in sports.
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12-11-2013 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Sly Caveat
If Saban was down 20M to alums I doubt that would be a secret at this point among Bama fans.
This. And plus, that little detail just has "bull****ting" written all over it. What's the implication? Saban gonna move to Austin so he can drop $10M with stupid longhorn alums? Moving magically makes the losses disappear? It's just the newest variation of "interior designers".
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12-11-2013 , 11:45 AM
pvn- in that same rumor they were saying that the Texas boosters had a deal in place to make Saban whole. (which is why it gets even more implausible).
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12-11-2013 , 12:08 PM
right, that was so stupid that I just sort of subconciously ignored it
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12-11-2013 , 12:10 PM
but, also, you know, Malzahn yelled at his agent for doing his job, and that's reliable, so you guys clearly aren't thinking outside the box enough on what is plausible
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12-11-2013 , 12:11 PM
harsin to boise. maybe he'll hire pease back.
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12-11-2013 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Caveat
Yeah, for sure I'd be disappointed in a way. The Iron Bowl has a a chance to be the biggest rivalry in sports over the next decade if those two continue on their trajectories and that will bring a lot of recruits to Auburn and just make Auburn better overall. I already can't wait until next year. But I still want him to leave, just for the lols. Bama's next coach is ****ed. Going to be a rude awakening.
How often has Auburn and Alabama both been good? There just isn't enough talent to support both schools being elite for very long (one rising and the other falling and meeting somewhere on that, barring rare instances). Alabama and Auburn's key to mutual success is from raiding nearby areas like Louisiana, Texas, Florida, etc..., and also poses challenges with a lot of competition in those areas as well.

Auburn on the rise and Malzahn possibly having more "flair" in his style compared to boring Sabanball might attract more recruits as well, Saban would be smart as hell to get out of town, go where the challenges aren't as hard and the rewards are greater and you'll have a lot of slack to get things going against lesser competition.
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12-11-2013 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Your Mom
harsin to boise.
Arkansas State has a great thing going and they will probably screw it up for the sake of stability. They have been a bottom 10 program forever until the last 5 years. Freeze, Malzahn,and now Harsin have left after a season, but the program has had it's best years under those guys. The best play would be to go get Rhett Lashlee or another young OC and keep the tradition running. They early word is that they want to hire a coach that will stay there. Good luck with that.

Tulsa basketball was rolling with the same concept. Nolan Richardson, Tubby Smith, Bill Self, and there was another coach that I am forgetting. The administration elected to go for a "long term" hire and they have never recovered.
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12-11-2013 , 01:31 PM
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How often has Auburn and Alabama both been good? There just isn't enough talent to support both schools being elite for very long (one rising and the other falling and meeting somewhere on that, barring rare instances).
This is a misconception. Auburn and Bama haven't been great at the same time mainly because they haven't had great coaches at the same time. There's plenty of talent in the southeast for both teams to have top 5 recruiting classes.
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12-11-2013 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Caveat
This is a misconception. Auburn and Bama haven't been great at the same time mainly because they haven't had great coaches at the same time. There's plenty of talent in the southeast for both teams to have top 5 recruiting classes.
But those two schools don't have a monopoly on that talent and there are tons of good coaches also scouring that area for talent.

Look at Florida, which is full of talented recruits, and has a hard time having more than 2 out of FSU, Miami, and Florida good at any period in time. And when its two, its usually one rising and the other falling.
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12-11-2013 , 01:52 PM
Coaching Changes Daily: Bama wants to keep Saban highest-paid

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Alabama approached Nick Saban's camp before the Auburn game last month, interested in reworking his contract, a well-placed University of Alabama official with knowledge of the situation told CBSSports.com.

The approach was not in response to speculation about Saban's rumored interest in the Texas job, speculation that was re-ignited amid Tuesday's reports suggesting the end is near for Mack Brown in Austin. According to the source, Alabama is prepared to keep Saban as the country's highest-paid coach.

"He's been at the top of the market and we want to keep it that way," the source said.

That might require a raise from his reported salary of $5.62 million, if Texas pursues the coach with three national titles in five seasons.

In April, the Alabama board of trustees enhanced Saban's bonus structure to accommodate next year's college football playoff. Saban makes $200,000 for reaching the semifinal, $300,000 for reaching the championship game and $400,000 for winning the title game. Saban's base pay remained relatively intact, however, a move made to help bolster the pay of assistant coaches.

Saban to Texas is the story that won't die, persisting for the past month despite several denials from Saban himself. Saban's wife, Terry, told the Wall Street Journal the family is staying in Tuscaloosa.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...an-highestpaid
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12-11-2013 , 01:55 PM
The Florida schools being down has absolutely zilch to do with there not being enough talent to go around.
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12-11-2013 , 01:55 PM
But since Mrs. Saban specified that "the family is staying in Tuscaloosa" this obv leaves open the possibility that Nick is going to Texas without the family.
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12-11-2013 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Caveat
The Florida schools being down has absolutely zilch to do with there not being enough talent to go around.
This right here. The U has been competitive for a long time just recruiting south of Disney World.
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12-11-2013 , 02:27 PM
And here's the really critical take you should have been waiting for on this if you weren't already.

http://prevailandride.blogspot.com/2...mire-2013.html

Prevail And Ride and MS Paint DICKS!!
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12-11-2013 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Caveat
The Florida schools being down has absolutely zilch to do with there not being enough talent to go around.
Yep

you can easily chalk up the fact that all 3 aren't usually good at the same time to just plain old variance. so many factors, coaching, recruiting, administrative crap, whatever.
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12-11-2013 , 03:25 PM
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Yep

you can easily chalk up the fact that all 3 aren't usually good at the same time to just plain old variance. so many factors, coaching, recruiting, administrative crap, whatever.
How often are even 2 of them good? Seems like we had FSU dominant, then Miami, then Florida, now back to FSU.
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12-11-2013 , 03:46 PM
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The Florida schools being down has absolutely zilch to do with there not being enough talent to go around.
this

it's not like they have to pay more to get a guy from Florida. The idea that recruits on the other side of some rinky dink state border "belong" to some other school and if bama or AU gets them they were "raided" is so... provincial.
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