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12-06-2013 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Hey_Porter
I'm still crossing my fingers. I wouldn't be surprised if they leave, but the latest and greatest insider info is they definitely haven't reached a deal, and USC has actually said they don't want to pay Wilcox's $1 million buyout.

Petersen having worked with Wilcox probably doesn't hurt.
Is Wilcox the head recruiter? Assuming so, gotta' side with USC on this one, since any tranny street hooker could recruit for USC.
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12-06-2013 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PickSixSherm
I'm happy with the hire. We get a coach who wanted the job and not one who used it as a stepping stone on to a bigger stage. (And a guy who has beaten Oregon unlike sark at 0-5) I don't blame sark for bolting for USC, but he does seem somewhat of a charlatan claiming he wanted to be the next Don James and an hour prior to his hiring he was on the radio with Mitch in the Morning saying he was nowhere near being named the coach at USC lol

Wow, big sports day in the 206 with this and the M's signing of Cano. He should make a nice addition along with Bloomquist
I think you are confusing the word "charlatan" with the word "liar". Or possibly "phoney" or "scumbag".
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12-06-2013 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Holliday
Is Wilcox the head recruiter? Assuming so, gotta' side with USC on this one, since any tranny street hooker could recruit for USC.
Sirmon (who already bolted to USC) was technically recruiting coordinator, but Tosh Lupoi is the best recruiter they've got, possibly the best recruiter in the Pac-12. Rumor is USC would pay Tosh's $450,000 buy out and want him, but that Tosh wants to stick with Wilcox (and USC DOESN'T want to pay that buy out). Who the hell knows, though. Again, this is my first experience with an intense coaching search as a fan of the team doing the searching, and the rumors are frustrating as ****. The above re: Wilcox and Tosh has been reported by quite a few, though.
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12-06-2013 , 02:56 PM
So who does Boise get?
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12-06-2013 , 03:03 PM
lane kiffin?
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12-06-2013 , 03:10 PM
Bryan Harsin would be the first name to come to mind.
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12-06-2013 , 03:18 PM
Story I read said Harsin was #1 candidate.
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12-06-2013 , 03:38 PM
*Sigh*

I think there is a chance Petersen is the 2nd best coach in football (though most likely 3rd-10th), but Washington could dominate the P-12 north in the next decade with him at the helm.

I think Oregon is a couple bad losses away from completely crumbling, Wazzu will always be a plucky upstart but I doubt they ever go back to their days of dominance. Oregon State seems to be fading into irrelevance, Cal was 1-11 this year and Stanford's dominance seems unsustainable in the long run because it's Stanford.

Washington has a lot of money and history and sleeping giant potential, think this could be game over for the P12N
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12-06-2013 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
Wilcox and Tosh are gone from what I've read. (you'd be an idiot to hire Sark without them).

Peterson is probably a good hire, but I also wouldn't be shocked to find out that what he does doesn't work nearly so well when the level of competition is higher.
His Boise teams went 92-12. They beat teams with a lot more talent with EXTREME regularity, they basically suffered zero embarrassing losses to weaker games in his entire career as head coach, and they always played hard, played smart and played great defense.

Now, you give him more money, more support and better players and you think all of those things are going to change? Doubt it
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12-06-2013 , 04:01 PM
[x] pac 12 best conference of all time

[x] every team in the pac 12 sucks or is moments away from imploding

checks out.
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12-06-2013 , 04:42 PM
All I'm saying is that Peterson has a big sample size of beating bad teams and a smaller sample size of beating good teams and there's reason to still wonder just how great he really is. I'm not sure that the way you win at a place like BSU is the same at UW when you're much less likely to overmatch the other guys physically. How great did Dan Hawkin's work out?

I don't buy Oregon crumbling and think people are way underestimating the degree to which their health impacted this season. I do think there's some questions about the approach the new staff took and the degree to which they threw the ball, but that's still a very talented team that is always going to have insane resources.
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12-06-2013 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenBears
*Sigh*

I think there is a chance Petersen is the 2nd best coach in football (though most likely 3rd-10th), but Washington could dominate the P-12 north in the next decade with him at the helm.

I think Oregon is a couple bad losses away from completely crumbling, Wazzu will always be a plucky upstart but I doubt they ever go back to their days of dominance. Oregon State seems to be fading into irrelevance, Cal was 1-11 this year and Stanford's dominance seems unsustainable in the long run because it's Stanford.

Washington has a lot of money and history and sleeping giant potential, think this could be game over for the P12N
Love it.

Really hope this post doesn't become the new "Shut the hell up about the SEC" bump whenever GB goes off the rails again.
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12-06-2013 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TalkingDonkey
No coaching carousel is complete without it!
Flighttracker speculation accurate for first time ever?

I'm absolutely ecstatic about the hire. I'm always impressed by Petersen's game plan, preparation and demeanor. The only real concern anyone seems to have is recruiting but Petersen has instant credibility with recruits. 2-0 against Oregon. 2 national coach of the year awards. 2 Fiesta Bowl wins. He is the anti-Sark- no glitz, all substance. Just because he couldn't get 4-star recruits from LA to Boise doesn't mean he can't get them to Seattle. Even Ty managed a top-15 ranked class without even dropping his five iron.

Time to dream of beating Oregon again!
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12-06-2013 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ugot2outs
I find it funny that Peterson traded a job in Boise State that was hard to recruit and kinda gimmickie for a job at Washington which is hard to recruit and has been completely average the last few years. Peterson must love a challenge cause this will be one. I heard on TV today people comparing the job with Gonzaga in Mens basketball and I don't personally believe that they are similar at all because in football you have to get so many more players then you have to get in Basketball. a basketball squad is so much smaller then football obviously. and the schools he's recruiting against in football (USC, Oregon, UCLA) are so much better then what Gonzaga is banging with in basketball

Coach Peterson you got your hands full but I want to wish you good luck on teaching the states of California, Arizona and Oregon Whatsup and bringing Boise ball to Pacific North West

First of all it is not difficult to recruit to Seattle and UW. UW has historically done a great job melding the top local talent with USC's leftovers from California. Even the coaches that failed at UW pulled in highly regarded classes from Lambright to Neu even Willingham landed a #14 class without even trying.

Second, there is a lot of talent on UW's roster right now. UW's last four classes as ranked by Scout were:
#11
#22
#23
#13

Other than Keith Price the Huskies lose very little in the way of starting talent if Sankey, ASJ and Shelton don't declare. And as you saw when Cyler Miles stepped in for the OSU game and put up 69 points...they might even be able to upgrade at QB.

Sark recruited a lot of talent. He is a great salesman. He couldn't deliver. But this is a roster that can win and win now.
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12-06-2013 , 05:04 PM
Washington is hard to recruit? Seattle is the biggest city in like 6 states and UW has never really had issues with recruiting at all.

Although in terms of Sark specifically- a lot of his best gets were because of Tosh.
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12-06-2013 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ugot2outs
I agree with all of this, I just know the increase in competition and expectation will be hard to handle. How long is it before UW expects to be in big bowl game action 2 years from now ? he's going to need 3 or 4 to get his guys and get his recruits up to age and ready to dominate

Personally i think his style plays well against a team like Oregon (who i don't think can not handle physical teams very well) Combined with the loss of Chip Kelly next year is going to be so huge for Oregon. They could fall off the map or prove there going to be here for a while
I expect to be in contention for the P12 title in 2014. I think most Huskies fans agree. Sark was going to need to deliver 10+ wins in 2014 or pack his bags and if anything my expectations have only increased in the last week. (although obviously Pete gets a longer leash. Sark long ago wore his leash thin.)
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12-06-2013 , 05:08 PM
Boise won with player development and great coaching. That is exactly what a school like Washington needs since it will always be a difficult place to consistently land top 15 classes. It's the same with Arkansas and why Petersen was our #1 target last year. Boise St has 18 players in the NFL, yet I believe they have only signed one 4 star player during Petersen's career. It seems like a perfect fit.
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12-06-2013 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
Washington is hard to recruit? Seattle is the biggest city in like 6 states and UW has never really had issues with recruiting at all.

Although in terms of Sark specifically- a lot of his best gets were because of Tosh.
There aren't many top level recruits in their backyard. They have to dip into other states to pull talent, which is generally a recipe for failure. While California is loaded with talent, there are a ton of other schools that they have to compete with and most of them are closer than Washington.
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12-06-2013 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by razorbacker
Boise won with player development and great coaching. That is exactly what a school like Washington needs since it will always be a difficult place to consistently land top 15 classes. It's the same with Arkansas and why Petersen was our #1 target last year. Boise St has 18 players in the NFL, yet I believe they have only signed one 4 star player during Petersen's career. It seems like a perfect fit.
Definitely need player development. Sark would routinely throw players into the fray as true freshmen who flashed potential but were not physically and mentally ready to compete at a P12 level. And 2-3 years later as upperclassmen they would still be the same player.

But again, UW is a great place to recruit to. UW historically is the #3 Pac program, some would contend # 2 ahead of UCLA. UW always did well pulling kids from Cali and mixing in the majority of the local talent. UW's demise coincided with the rise of the Oregon and now the Stanford brands but there is still a lot of money behind the program. Petersen's net of possible coaching hires is cast wide. Woodward's checkbook will be open for Pete to keep Tosh or hire the next Tosh-like recruiting mercenary. Not to mention great facilities and great location.
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12-06-2013 , 05:16 PM
There's more than enough talent in the NW to win. All UW needs to do is keep in-state kids here and pluck the occasional kid from socal and they'll be fine.
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12-06-2013 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MrFeelNothin
But again, UW is a great place to recruit to. UW historically is the #3 Pac program, some would contend # 2 ahead of UCLA. UW always did well pulling kids from Cali and mixing in the majority of the local talent. UW's demise coincided with the rise of the Oregon and now the Stanford brands but there is still a lot of money behind the program. Petersen's net of possible coaching hires is cast wide. Woodward's checkbook will be open for Pete to keep Tosh or hire the next Tosh-like recruiting mercenary. Not to mention great facilities and great location.
In the last 7 recruiting classes the state of Washington has produced 7 four star players total. The point about Washington being difficult to recruit to is just the lack of in state talent. OU is currently feeling the effects of not having enough in state talent. They have always had to rely on going out of state, now aTm is dominating them in recruiting and have basically taken their spot. It's just a lot easier to stay dominant if you have a lot of talent in your own state. When you have to consistently go out of state, it is easy to lose your place.
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12-06-2013 , 05:50 PM
Saban reportedly signed a deal worth $8MM/year today

Spoiler:
with Bama
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12-06-2013 , 05:51 PM
How much per year was he getting previously?
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12-06-2013 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pvn
[x] pac 12 best conference of all time

[x] every team in the pac 12 sucks or is moments away from imploding

checks out.
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12-06-2013 , 05:59 PM
Washington isn't Texas or Florida, but it's not Nebraska or Idaho either.

It's not like Washington struggled to recruit in the past when they were good
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