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BUTCH ****IN JONES BRO

People LOL at these hires, but really, these guys get the head coaching jobs they fail at because they're good at something. It just turns out that "being good at coordinator" doesn't really seem to be a good predictor of "being good at FBS power 5 head coach." Picking up these dudes on the rebound seems to be a pretty solid practice.

I guess I need to make a butch avatar

Butch Jones is worth his weight in oranges if he manages to secure a Life Championship in Tuscaloosa says this observer

Is Saban hoarding fired coaches?

For a second there on my phone I thought Butch was going with a sleeveless look, real disappointing when I looked closer

Peter Principle

DJ Durkin? DJ notgonnahaveajobmuchlonger

Looks like Maryland might just clean house. Good. I hope they do

Urban Meyer as a consultant at Bama might be just enough for me to briefly cheer for Saban.

Jim Harbaugh hot seat?

It’s getting warm but Michigan fans will tell you he’s set for lyfe so lol. He’s looking quite overrated at the moment. His team had no offensive identity last night, he had some absolutely horrid clock management, and the fact that he “finally got his qb” apparently is a joke because the backup looked more polished. Obviously it’s still early in the season but it looks like it might be a rough season for them. I hate giving credit to Notre Dame but maybe they are actually good this year so who knows. Let’s pump the brakes a bit. The fact that Harbaugh can’t “win the big one” is getting kinda alarming though. (And surprising tbh)

Harbaugh has an atrocious win percentage against good/great games so far -- i think his record is like 5-11 (5-12 if you count ND) against 8-win teams

his last "big win" was october 1st, 2016, a 14-7 rout of Wisconsin in Ann Arbor

his ONLY road win against an 8+ win team was the 2015 pasting of Florida in the bowl game

I’m still behind him but there is no excuse for having a MAC level offensive line in year 4 and for being laughably incompetent in game. The sad reality is that Michigan isn’t ever going to land a better coach so the fan base may as well remain behind him. Besides 2006, the program hasn’t been nationally relevant for 20 years.

He's still CLEANING UP HOKE'S MESS

The idea of Harbaugh being on the hot seat is ludicrous. Sure, he's fallen short of expectations, but that's only because the expectations are so lofty.

The hot take artists love to point out his record against Sparty and Ohio State. If variance goes the other way ever (see, e.g., blocked punt TD against Sparty and JT WAS SHORT against tOSU, or last year's tOSU game) his record is average instead of bad. Last-minute bowl game losses are completely meaningless. Other than last year's game against the Pedos the team is competitive with anybody.

If the OL improves -- and I'm going to give Ed Warinner more than one game -- this can still be a good season. If they go 4-8, then we can talk about a hot seat.

What's Harbaugh's VORC?

Definitely not on hotseat.

"If he had just caught a few breaks he'd be mediocre" is a pretty compelling argument

Well, we don’t blatantly cheat and have some minimal academic standards like literacy, so the ceiling is probably the #10 program in the country. This is as good as it’s going to get.

The issue is that UM could get Harbaugh level performance for half the money.

By that logic, shouldn't someone from your nutrition or biology departments be intervening about the whole "nervous bird" thing?

How does any reporter ever ask him any other question, btw?

go play intramurals, brotha

Nah. Tried that with Hoke, didn't work.

Harbaugh's in-game coaching appears to be suboptimal. He's been on the wrong end of the score in most of the rivalry games, though with ~ two exceptions (2015 tOSU, 2017 Pedos) they've been close, competitive games. Variance happens.

But when assessing his VORC, you have to look at the bigger picture. He runs a clean program, at least to the extent such a thing is possible. It's organized and run professionally. He's been able to attract top tier assistants. He's got the support of the overwhelming majority of fanbase - and after the RichRod debacle that should not be underestimated. He's good with the rich guys -- see, e.g., the guys that fund the overseas trips. Season ticket sales and program revenue are up. Although there are plenty of doubters I think he's recruiting quite well**. He's visible and has significantly elevated the profile of the program.

I can't think of anyone that's out there that would step in and immediately do a better job (except in-game decisions). As for the "half the cost", so what? What are they going to do with that saved money, gold plate the toilets in the athletic complex?

Harbaugh's seat is not the least bit hot for this year and almost certainly next unless the team completely craters. Despite the lousy OL, not happening.

** Obviously not going to get the 5 stars that are 1-800-CASH-NOW types and need to win more to get more of those that aren't so motivated.

That's not an issue when you print money.

doubtful. lot of nostalgia for the halcyon days of Hoke going 5-7, huh?

nobody with any remote shred of power in the Michigan program thinks he’s anywhere close to the HOT SEAT

any insinuation that he is comes from idiot fans or national media who aren’t plugged into the program and are flinging poo