These are no longer college students out there fighting for their schools. These are highly compensated employees out there risking injury for ???

It seems to me that their employers' should be able to figure out a solution pretty easily.

hope u guys got some $ down

Related note... anybody wants to buy some UNLV, Iowa State or UGA at fair value let me know. I have some hedging to do

Notre Dame is idle until playoffs. Do they get a bye after conference championship games are finished? Are they a top 4 team for seeding purposes?

As long as ND remains independent, they will never have a chance at a top 4 playoff spot receiving a bye. Those are reserved for the top 4 conference champions, regardless of official seed.

So I guess ND's "bye" can be viewed as being selected for the CFP but not having to play a championship game.

Byes in the playoffs are reserved for conference champions

So this is my best guess of how things could shake out

if UNLV > Boise, then UNLV fills in Boise's spot except where Boise > Clemson, I would assume Clemson > UNLV

Obviously blowouts in the CCGs can change a lot. In particular, if SMU gets blown out, I think they may drop, but if they keep it close, they stay in.


I think the SEC/B1G order is fairly clear. If Oregon wins they are 1 no matter what. If Texas and PSU win, it's 1 Tex 2 PSU. If UGA wins, they are always 2

Oregon is 5 whenever they lose, else it's ND. Some chance that if Texas loses close, they could be 5 and ND 6

SMU is always 3 when they win. I think B12 winner has to be 4, but the committee has had this crazy love affair with Boise as they continue to beat sub-100 opponents


I would think PSU that loses is behind OSU (same # of losses, H2H) but given how bad that Michigan loss was, it wouldn't be crazy to see them flopped

I think Tenn is right in front of OSU in most scenarios

I think Indiana follows them. Would be weird to have Indiana ahead of an OSU team that beat it so thoroughly, and OSU I think is behind Tenn

One I'm really not sure about is PSU that loses vs Indiana. I think PSU is ahead but if they get whomped that could flop

I think 3 loss UGA is behind Indiana, just from the sheer 3 >>> 1 and committee seems addicted to sort by losses



For the final spot, everybody seems to assume it's Bama, and I also think it should be Bama, but committee is addicted to sort by losses so maybe it's Miami, idk

ND can only ever top out at #5 as other have said, but thats kinda brilliant as the 5 spot has a super easy road to the semis in most cases

added UNLV

corrected for the fact that if Boise wins, they'll be ahead of bama/miami so they'd actually have the 11 seed not 12




the 5th and 6th scenarios have two first round rematches, osu/indiana and tenn/uga in the 89 and 7/10

tenn and osu are so close, it would make sense to switch then 7 and 8 to create two new matchups, but not sure if they'd do that. more likely they'd take uga who just lost and slot them in at 9 ahead of indiana and avoid it that way

Curious to see if the CFP says "let's go B1G/SEC in the 1st round for interesting matchups or just go B1G/B1G SEC/SEC rematch in the hopes of nearly locking in a B1G/SEC (or ND) title game

Apparently the committee groups teams by 3 then 3 then 3 then 4 then 4 then 4 then 4.

As mentioned ND cannot make the top 4. The 1st round begins Dec 20, so they do get 3 weeks off just like the conference champions will get. The 4 conference champs will need to win 3 neutral site games in a row. ND will probably get a home game favored by a touchdown or more, and then be on the same footing.

Conference championship losers who make the field will have only one bye week.

Army or Navy who made the field outside the top 4 would have no bye week.

Row 15 has two entries for smu.

Plus, ND never has to play a CCG. Home playoff game in cold Dec >>>> playing a conference championship game every time.

Thanks for all the work you do in the thread GB

5 seed is the best spot in the whole tourney most years

usually you will get to play a home game against a G5 team, then you will get to play neutral against the worst P4 champ

this year because the committee has some bizarre love affair for Boise and their "quality loss," the 12 seed will probably be Bama / Miami / Clemson / SMU if Boise wins.

If UNLV wins, then they scoot into the 12 and the 5 seed gets to face UNLV and then either Clemson or ASU/ISU

Would much rather have that then having a bye then a neutral site game against the 8/9 winner

6 seed is also sweet this year, looking at a similar lineup


First of all and most obviously, you're straight up more likely to make the semifinals playing UNLV at home followed by ASU/ISU neutral than you are vs UGA neutral or something.

Second of all, a lot of teams could use the emotional and visibility lift of winning at least 1 playoff game. It doesn't matter to the Alabamas and the Georgias of the world, but for a team like Notre Dame who made the BCS title once and the playoffs twice and got curb stomped every time, winning a playoff game (especially against a P4 team like Miami or Clemson) would be a tangible step in the right direction

Same for Indiana, SMU, ASU and ISU (obviously) - winning a single playoff game keeps the in the conversation, legitimizes them for next couple of years and probably gives a huge recruiting boost.


Their fans will deny it, but the same is true for Penn State and Tennessee and Miami - none of them have been remotely relevant to the national title in 25+ years, longer than any of these kids have been alive. Winning a game or two would be a big deal.

The whole scene was ****ing beautiful. Can't imagine a more perfect ending. We broke them.

Tbf we don't care about football the way they do. It's an insane culture in Columbus.

All I know is when that Michigan team beats THAT Ohio State super-roster pepper spray and blood is the only appropriate ending.