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10-08-2023 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
. So the top teams are using the portal to plug holes, taking the best players from middle class programs. And the guys that transfer out of the top programs are guys who were getting lost on the depth chart.
Unless you’re Dabo.

I would be interested to see what the hit rate is on guys who downtransfer. The ones I’ve seen (mostly on Michigan’s scrub opponents) have generally been non-factors.

The mid tier teams need to be able to pull in both directions.
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10-08-2023 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
Unless you’re Dabo.

I would be interested to see what the hit rate is on guys who downtransfer. The ones I’ve seen (mostly on Michigan’s scrub opponents) have generally been non-factors.

The mid tier teams need to be able to pull in both directions.
FSU had like 15-20 guys transfer away last portal and I saw an article a week ago about how they're all doing and only one guy is even really putting up big #s. The others are mediocre starters at best or not really a factor. And most of these guys transferred to weaker programs. Some were even 4 star guys.
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10-08-2023 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
FSU had like 15-20 guys transfer away last portal and I saw an article a week ago about how they're all doing and only one guy is even really putting up big #s. The others are mediocre starters at best or not really a factor. And most of these guys transferred to weaker programs. Some were even 4 star guys.
Same with Michigan. You'll have the odd one off situations where guys just can't get playing time (will most often happen at QB). Like I have no idea why Michigan couldn't find touches for Andrel Anthony who is killing it at Oklahoma. But for the most part the guys that transfer down from top programs just never developed into starting caliber players
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10-08-2023 , 11:13 AM
adding to the Miami lolz

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10-08-2023 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
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the problem for Texas is that Ewers isn't a baller. the Bama game is the only big spot game i've ever seen him overachieve. yday he had three turnovers. you can't win football games when your QB can't take care of the football
Quinn is absolutely not that guy, that first interception yesterday where he stared down his receiver, pumped faked to the same receiver not once but twice, and then threw to that same receiver after having stared at him for a good 4 seconds was absolutely awful. but pretty much every single contender this year is flawed in one way or another, if Oregon, UGA, Bama and oh st are still live to title with their QBs then im not ready to rule texas out yet either.
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10-08-2023 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 702guy
but Arizona's play call on their 3rd OT possession was the 2nd worst play call in history
Alabama had an incomplete pass with 18 seconds on the play clock on a running game clock instead of kneeling down yesterday..
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10-08-2023 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
I was thinking about this last night: This is a really interesting year where the top 12-15 feels more even than its been in a while, but it feels like there's a steep drop off after that in most of the power conferences.

I wonder if this is just a weird one off where some programs that are usually competitive in that 20-40 overall range are having down years.

I do think the transfer portal makes this somewhat systemic though. You have the top 10-20 programs that can shell out NIL money and are destinations to compete. Then everyone else is at risk of getting their players poached. So the top teams are using the portal to plug holes, taking the best players from middle class programs. And the guys that transfer out of the top programs are guys who were getting lost on the depth chart.
i have noticed a very strange dynamic this year where the overall CFB landscape is an A++, there is probably 10-12 teams who have a legit shot at titling this season whereas that number is normally closer to 2-3, but the games themselves have been pretty disappointing if you ask me, we haven't really gotten one of those crazy weeks where the **** hits the fan and 4-5 of the top 15 teams lose whereas we normally would have seen 1-2 of those weeks by now in most seasons and i wonder if that's because of what you said with the 20-40 teams having down years and being victims of the NIL/transfer portal.
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10-08-2023 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
Quinn is absolutely not that guy, that first interception yesterday where he stared down his receiver, pumped faked to the same receiver not once but twice, and then threw to that same receiver after having stared at him for a good 4 seconds was absolutely awful. but pretty much every single contender this year is flawed in one way or another, if Oregon, UGA, Bama and oh st are still live to title with their QBs then im not ready to rule texas out yet either.
fair

Texas does have a lot of good things going for them otherwise
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10-08-2023 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Alabama had an incomplete pass with 18 seconds on the play clock on a running game clock instead of kneeling down yesterday..
Bama was trying to get off a quick play to stop the replay booth from reviewing their previous play so that one is a little more understandable, Cristobal had not 1 not 2 but 3 chances, two entire minutes, to realize that he could have simply taken a knee and the game would be over and still chose to run the ball, that one is on a completely different level.
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10-08-2023 , 11:44 AM
Today's absurd Michigan stat:

In 6 games excluding garbage time, Michigan's offense has had 10 plays go for negative yardage, with 4 of those being a run of -1 yard
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10-08-2023 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
Bama was trying to get off a quick play to stop the replay booth from reviewing their previous play so that one is a little more understandable
I read that so I rewatched it. By the time the play starts they already had two TV replays that clearly showed complete and over 20 seconds went off the play clock. Besides that I don't really understand why it's quicker to throw an incomplete pass that stops the clock than to take a knee that keeps the clock running?

The only reasonable play call here is to hurry to the line and take a knee as soon as the ball is spotted. If the clock doesn't stop after the play you don't need to worry about not getting more time off the clock before the play.
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10-08-2023 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
I read that so I rewatched it. By the time the play starts they already had two TV replays that clearly showed complete and over 20 seconds went off the play clock. Besides that I don't really understand why it's quicker to throw an incomplete pass that stops the clock than to take a knee that keeps the clock running?

The only reasonable play call here is to hurry to the line and take a knee as soon as the ball is spotted. If the clock doesn't stop after the play you don't need to worry about not getting more time off the clock before the play.
it wasn't just about whether he caught it there was also some doubt as to whether his knee was down when he possessed the ball which would have made it 4th down and given A&M the ball back, would not have been that easy for the coaches to process all of that in a 20 second period. i'm not saying that Bama's decision was not bad or anything because it definitely was but just that it doesn't belong in the same category as Cristobal.
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10-08-2023 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
Today's absurd Michigan stat:

In 6 games excluding garbage time, Michigan's offense has had 10 plays go for negative yardage, with 4 of those being a run of -1 yard
i think many of us have come full circle on UM after their Charmin soft OOC schedule

it would be a shame if they didn't qualify for the CFP. they look to be a championship caliber team
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10-08-2023 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
those slappies arguing LSU shouldn't be ranked bc of their porous D have to step up and also demand that USC not be ranked

obv not saying GB is one of those slappies. using his post to illustrate USC's putrid D



moving up in those mocks



moving down in those mocks



sign me up



let's not get carried away



let's not get carried away



the problem for Texas is that Ewers isn't a baller. the Bama game is the only big spot game i've ever seen him overachieve. yday he had three turnovers. you can't win football games when your QB can't take care of the football

reminds me of Tua's brother at Maryland. decent QB but when he finds himself in big spots you can't rely on him (like yday in the Shoe)



obv the CFB OT system sux. to take away one of the three phases of football during overtime play is plain stupid and egregious

adopt the NFL regular season OT rules already and accept ties sometimes happen in football
Why not? If they beat Miami next week they’ll most likely be 10-0 heading into Clemson and NCSt to finish the season. Neither is good. Get past FSU in the ACC title game and they’re in.

Offense looks greats and just now has all the players. Defense is night and day from last year.

I don’t think any fan base is doing cartwheels if they draw UNC in the CFP.
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10-08-2023 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
FSU had like 15-20 guys transfer away last portal and I saw an article a week ago about how they're all doing and only one guy is even really putting up big #s. The others are mediocre starters at best or not really a factor. And most of these guys transferred to weaker programs. Some were even 4 star guys.
I like this Rucker kid for our defense.
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10-08-2023 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by gmcarroll33
Why not? If they beat Miami next week they’ll most likely be 10-0 heading into Clemson and NCSt to finish the season. Neither is good. Get past FSU in the ACC title game and they’re in.

Offense looks greats and just now has all the players. Defense is night and day from last year.

I don’t think any fan base is doing cartwheels if they draw UNC in the CFP.
decades of following UNC football
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10-08-2023 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
decades of following UNC football
Haha true, but this year feels different. Most years (90s they were never getting by FSU and half the time would screw it up vs UVA, 2000s just plain sucked, 2010 got screwed by the NCAA, Fedora was an idiot, but this isn't any of that now) they had no chance before the season even started. As soon as this year began I thought this team was a CFP darkhorse. None of the usual top teams are going to be there by the end, outside of UGA/Michigan probably. UNC controls their own fate. Win out and they're in. Lose 1 and beat FSU in the title game and they're in.
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10-08-2023 , 01:08 PM
Oh yeah, expect for things to go wrong, be happy when they don’t.

The below tweet sums up the history of UNC football. Adam tweeted it before Miami’s LOL.



Hopefully Miami is reeling after last night.

I am cautiously optimistic. Enjoying it while I can.
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10-08-2023 , 01:14 PM
strange tweet

Kenan opened in 1927

but obv get the gist of what he's saying
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10-08-2023 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
Oh yeah, expect for things to go wrong, be happy when they don’t.

The below tweet sums up the history of UNC football. Adam tweeted it before Miami’s LOL.



Hopefully Miami is reeling after last night.

I am cautiously optimistic. Enjoying it while I can.
The 90s had a dominant defense, but an offense that couldn't hold up with FSU, and Oscar Davenport or Keldorf would screw up another game. The rest............well let's just say we never had Drake during those years. Our receivers are elite, running backs look strong and fast, and can catch. Good TE's, LB's are all-american good, secondary much improved, D-line much better with Foxx and Rucker now. I dunno. I see as good of a chance as UNC is ever going to get to do something special.
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10-08-2023 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by gmcarroll33
The 90s had a dominant defense, but an offense that couldn't hold up with FSU, and Oscar Davenport or Keldorf would screw up another game. The rest............well let's just say we never had Drake during those years. Our receivers are elite, running backs look strong and fast, and can catch. Good TE's, LB's are all-american good, secondary much improved, D-line much better with Foxx and Rucker now. I dunno. I see as good of a chance as UNC is ever going to get to do something special.
i agree w you here

especially if it's true we could lose a game and then win the ACCCG and still qualify for the CFP. i'll believe that scenario when i see it. they'd find a way to keep us out imo

we prob need to run the table
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10-08-2023 , 01:21 PM
Yup, I just hope we take advantage. Finally adding Tez is a big boost too.

And yeah, I wouldn’t feel good with 1 loss, especially if it’s to UVA, GT or State.

Clemson sucking this year doesn’t help. That had potential to be a big resume boosting win.
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10-08-2023 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
Unless you’re Dabo.

I would be interested to see what the hit rate is on guys who downtransfer. The ones I’ve seen (mostly on Michigan’s scrub opponents) have generally been non-factors.

The mid tier teams need to be able to pull in both directions.
I've found it depends. Offensive linemen and CBs seem to have the best hit rate, esp going outside the P5 (ldo, where they're a lot bigger than the other guys). For others it's mainly how far down they transfer, whether or not they were ever on the two-deep, and whether or not the new system is a better fit for them.

JT Daniels comes to mind as he was eventually benched at West Virginia and is now the best QB in the American in Rice's offense. But most of the Sunbelt and CUSA who have standout position groups have a couple of Xfers there, though at this point in the season I don't even remember which ones are Xfers.

But, I mean, other than that guy two years ago who went from not being able to find the field at UGA (best defense ever, you know?) to FSU (when it was a downgrade) where he won ACC defensive player of the year I think downtranfer benchriders mostly just hadn't really developed in the first place.
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10-08-2023 , 01:55 PM
Hope this article about Kiffin's dog mocking Cristobal isn't firewalled.

eta: if it's firewalled someone who does the thing formerly known as Twitter can post the original from Juice Kiffin there.

Last edited by Tom Ames; 10-08-2023 at 02:01 PM.
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10-08-2023 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
it wasn't just about whether he caught it there was also some doubt as to whether his knee was down when he possessed the ball which would have made it 4th down and given A&M the ball back, would not have been that easy for the coaches to process all of that in a 20 second period. i'm not saying that Bama's decision was not bad or anything because it definitely was but just that it doesn't belong in the same category as Cristobal.
It was pretty terrible in that it meant Alabama had to keep running plays to run the clock down enough to not have to punt instead of just game over.

The really stupid part was sending in an an RPO call. I didn't get to see much of Milroe's immediate reaction (they went right back to another replay of the lucky play) but it looks like he was just giving a thumbs up to the sideline to say "I'm not hurt, I'm just throwing the ball low to everyone because they're not 30 yards downfield." i.e. not a kid who just remembered he was told not to throw. But even if the OC also said "but only run it", I'm sure they have handoff up the middle plays without a pass option. The run wasn't there and qb did what qbs do; he found a reason to pass. It's like coaches' biggest complaint about RPOs.

Meanwhile, yeah:

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