Some guys enter the portal and are very clearly gone

Other guys enter the portal but keep practicing, and I assume leave the door open for a return. I assume the coach knows whether or not they'll play, but for "strategic" reasons doesn't tell the public, and it's difficult to find information online. especially for games like this where nobody gives a fk. Given the line moves when info comes out, it seems clear that Vegas is also often guessing. Like right up to gametime I could find zero information about whether the WKU linemen were gonna play. I assume if you went and scouted the walk thrus or practices or talked to guys in person you could suss it out, but there just isn't enough money to be won with that information so people don't really go out of their way to do it. I will check guys' twitters or instagrams or message boards once in a while to see if I can pick up any clues, but yeah usually you just don't really know.

I assume the coaches would generally rather play guys who aren't transferring so that they can get next year's players more experience, but if a guy is totally blowing it, you maybe put the better player back in there (like what is happening with Veltkamp right now)

For games like this, it's sort of the same principle that won a ton of money on colorado/tcu and baylor/texas state

You have coaching changes, guys opting out, some teams taking it seriously, some teams not, guys failing classes and losing eligibility, etc.

You should have much less faith in your pregame priors and rely more on the first quarter eye test. Very plausible that the team on the field is just totally different than the team your pregame projections are based on

Veltkamp is balling (13/13) off the bench but the offensive line looks worse than colorado

He just got sacked in 2 seconds on 3rd and 10, ODU rushed 3 guys and two of them sacked him

run plays to the runningback are impossible

hahahha oh boy

in my face


odu might lose straight up


it's wild bc the themes haven't changed. they're still getting incredible penetration every play and WKU cannot run the ball, but every screen or pass into the flat goes for 60 yards if the QB is able to get the ball out

Bowl season is so great. That was incredible

Oregon was a greater than 1 TD favorite over Washington. Washington won. You want to make it a beauty contest but winning should matter. BTW what your odds mean is Washington is the +ev bet.

aren't you envious of a free trip to charlotte this time of year?
they probably still thought it was being played in the bahamas

Marshall:
QB Fancher out
RB Ali playing
WR Coombs out

UTSA:
Trey Moore, best defensive player is out

QB Frank Harris just got declared out a few minutes ago

This is pretty much why bowls are nearly in-game-only for me at this point.


UTSA without Harris is in pretty bad shape, but not as bad as starting a muppet legacy guy with a 0 to 6 td to int ratio. Like, oh no; we don’t have our sack monster, i guess we’ll just have to settle for interceptions.

I don't know about Charlotte any time of the year ��

If I had to choose between playing in a meaningless bowl and going home for the holidays to spend time with family and friends like 90% of other college students do, that doesn't sound like a difficult decision to me. If participation wasn't basically required for anyone who wants to be on the team the next year I wonder how many players would actually show up for those bowl games?

I think you might be underestimating how much they like playing football but are definitely overestimating how much they want to be like other college students.

If you took a poll who knows, but I used to play football because I loved playing football

I would probably want to play and it wouldn’t be meaningless to me. And we need to define meaningless because if it’s defined as anything other than a playoff game then all of these group of 5 players signed on for meaningless games their entire careers.

We shouldn’t totally discount other things, some guys such as that third stringer from Minnesota might be starting his first and only game in his career. And it’s in a pro football stadium in a game televised by ESPN. It was phrased as this guy has virtually no reason whatsoever to play. Depending who he is and how much he likes football that might not be the case at all.

Maybe he’d like some glory before working 30 years as an insurance salesman :shrug;

yeah the nfl guys who are going to make millions in the league couldnt care less about these games but the 25 year old 7th year senior who put off entering the workforce for three years so he could play more ball is probably getting pretty hyped for these games.

And you make zero sense, certainly future NFL players wouldn’t care so much since they have big games left in their future.

So why did the guy stick around for 7 years assuming he could have graduated earlier. But then he has no reason to play after not playing all these years? Lol

And Holliday basically said the same thing and y’all jizz over his posts (except he couldn’t see the FSU thing coming)

Send me another dummy, I have no more use of this guy

Marshal may want to keep an eye on that Cephus fellow.

Lol, UTSA coach literally high-stepping onto the field to call TO after that turtle-coach run play w 50 seconds.

4th and 2 marshall lines up for a 43 yard fg instead of going for it. then scramble into sneak position and hard count to try to draw them offsides. UTSA doesn't jump, and instead of taking a timeout marshall just takes a 5 yard penalty to make it a *48 yarder.* kick is good, but marshall guy was offsides, so now it's a 53 yarder. They kick again and miss. lmao

This star running back just opted out at halftime after getting 92 yards, so yeah.

are you actually re.tarded or just pretending to be re.tarded?

my post was agreeing with your post.

FSU got job bed. This is all a farce.

Lol was it?

My bad buddy, was hungover all day and exhausted from giving people the back of my hand in other forums

My apologies!

Alcohol destroys brain cells. If you wanna continue to stay one step ahead of GB stop now!

Yeah I try and save what I have left

This Syracuse-South Florida game has been such a good bowl game!

Bold strategy by Utah to play a defense and punting game against a B1G West member.