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03-28-2021 , 05:37 PM
Going from Kelvin Sampson > Tom Crean > Archie Miller > Mike Woodson. Seems like that is opposite of how it should have went.
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03-28-2021 , 05:56 PM
Should have stuck with crean
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03-28-2021 , 06:29 PM
OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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03-28-2021 , 06:40 PM
Man, Michigan seems well coached. Juwan is gonna win a lot of games there
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03-28-2021 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenBears
Man, Michigan seems well coached. Juwan is gonna win a lot of games there
Lol every analyst that based their prediction for this game off of "Which team is more athletic" and not "Which team is better at basketball"
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03-28-2021 , 06:58 PM
I hope people appreciate this run. This is a team that lost their best player and now they're in the Elite 8. I seriously believe with Livers healthy this team is around 20 pts better than Gonzaga. So sick we'll never find out.
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03-28-2021 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenBears
Man, Michigan seems well coached. Juwan is gonna win a lot of games there
Hes going to end up with at least a title or two if he elects to stay in college and not head to the NBA.
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03-28-2021 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NotReddBoiler
Hes going to end up with at least a title or two if he elects to stay in college and not head to the NBA.
If you want to crown his ass...
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03-28-2021 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ILOVEPOKER929
I hope people appreciate this run. This is a team that lost their best player and now they're in the Elite 8. I seriously believe with Livers healthy this team is around 20 pts better than Gonzaga. So sick we'll never find out.
so, with Livers out what's your prediction?
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03-28-2021 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by REDeYeS00
so, with Livers out what's your prediction?
I'm beginning to think this team should win it all anyways. Maybe having the best coach in the game really matters. Without Livers this team should still beat Gonzaga by double digits. But I don't think Gonzaga will make it past Tuesday so...
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03-28-2021 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ILOVEPOKER929
I hope people appreciate this run. This is a team that lost their best player and now they're in the Elite 8. I seriously believe with Livers healthy this team is around 20 pts better than Gonzaga. So sick we'll never find out.

i’m not sure 20, but people really underestimate how good they are. if you’ve watched all year (you have), this is them. they’re really this good. withOUT livers.

unfortunately, they need him to ship.
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03-28-2021 , 07:29 PM
few things are more tilting than the instant yank of a guy who picks up 2 early fouls, followed by playing him at the start of the 2H as if there is some magical delineator between 21 minutes left in the game and 20, inevitably followed by him finishing the game with 2 or 3 total fouls
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03-28-2021 , 07:30 PM
lol Alabama is so ****ing awesome
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03-28-2021 , 07:31 PM
always kinda wondered why they didn’t just say, “hey. don’t foul for a while”
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03-28-2021 , 07:32 PM
LA has no answer for the best defense in the country
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03-28-2021 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RT
Woodson...really? Basically infinite money and they land on Woodson?
def a bad year for coach hiring when you think you are too pristine to even talk to drew or beard. (not saying they would have came or anything) major lack of options. I'm happy they didn't hire Moser though, I'd rather have this. I like the Matta thing and they will be throwing tons of money in their assistant pool. I think he can be an effective closer as a recruiter. Just got to get the players.
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03-28-2021 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by wiper
always kinda wondered why they didn’t just say, “hey. don’t foul for a while”
I mean, I get it, people play badly when they're worried about fouls so you sit them for a while such that the fouls/time remaining equilibrates and they can play freely, sure.

I also get that if you commit your second foul with, you know, 12 mins left in the 1st half then you should rest for a bit bc fresh players tend to foul less.

But I've never understood why the appropriate allocation for minutes for a guy who picks up 2 fouls in the first minute is 19 minutes on the bench followed by 20 mins on the floor.

Like, if a guy ends the game with 2 fouls you realize you sat him for no reason, right?

The last minute of the game is higher leverage than other minutes sure, but not much more beyond that. And even that's not clear. Sure you wanna have your star player available when you're down 1 with 45 seconds left, but maybe if you played him instead of planting him on the bench he would've fouled out but you'd be up six with 45 seconds left instead.

It just makes no sense that with 21 mins left, there is close to a zero percent participation rate for star players with 2 fouls, but with 20 minutes left it's literally 100%.

The most hilarious is when coaches do the same thing for like the 5th best starter or the 6th man and go deeper into the depth chart instead of keeping the guy who only plays 25 mins a game anyway on the floor if that's what you otherwise would have wanted.
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03-28-2021 , 07:49 PM
Hey Michiganers: congratulations, great game.

Am I remembering correctly that there was some controversy when Juwan was hired? Something about him not having much experience, maybe?

Pretty cool to see his reaction when his son made that 3-point play late too.

Re: the two early fouls thing. Good points, GoldenBears. Seems like a strategy could be to rest player for a little bit, then bring him back for short (fresh) spurts throughout the half, instead of "sit and get cold, then go after halftime".

Last edited by golddog; 03-28-2021 at 07:51 PM. Reason: Added to comment on Bears' post
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03-28-2021 , 07:54 PM
Yeah, that obviously makes more sense. For the most part, minutes are minutes.

And looks like Oates agrees, Jones back out there for some limited minutes (though not much other than 2 TOs so far)
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03-28-2021 , 07:56 PM
ILP, if Gonzaga and Michigan play i'm willing to put $200 on Gonzaga head's up final score (no line).
quote to book.
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03-28-2021 , 08:01 PM
Me too
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03-28-2021 , 08:03 PM
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Am I remembering correctly that there was some controversy when Juwan was hired? Something about him not having much experience, maybe?
It was a talking point that he had zero college coaching experience. You never know how someone who hasn't run a program will do in that regard. Not sure I'd call it a controversy, there are always going to be people who don't like a hire or something about a hire.
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03-28-2021 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by King~of~Diamonds
LA has no answer for the best defense in the country
LOLabama
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03-28-2021 , 08:03 PM
Dear 2+2 vultures. Gonzaga ain't gonna play Michigan. They're going to finally get exposed Tuesday.
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03-28-2021 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt24
def a bad year for coach hiring when you think you are too pristine to even talk to drew or beard. (not saying they would have came or anything) major lack of options. I'm happy they didn't hire Moser though, I'd rather have this. I like the Matta thing and they will be throwing tons of money in their assistant pool. I think he can be an effective closer as a recruiter. Just got to get the players.
They certainly could have done worse than Woodson, and if the rest of that is accurate there is a good chance the CEO Coach model works out. I mostly don't like the hire because Woodson is 63.
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