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11-29-2020 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by NotReddBoiler
Richmond up 13 on Kentucky with under 5 to play.
And UK loses 76-64 at Rupp.
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11-29-2020 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
And UK loses 76-64 at Rupp.
Meh, the line was UK -7. With the lack of scrimmages this season because of the virus expect to see more early season 'upsets'.

inb4 UNLV clips UNC tmr.
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11-29-2020 , 04:41 PM
I hope not haha. Definitely happy with the way we looked for the most part against CoC.
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11-29-2020 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
I hope not haha. Definitely happy with the way we looked for the most part against CoC.
Really? Who are the shooters? 4 for 18 from 3s (1 for 10 in the 2nd half).

Same **** as last season. In today's cbb, you better be ripping off more than four 3s a game (and obv you need a passable shooting % from 3 too).

As nasty as we could be on the inside this season, without shooters our ceiling is S16.
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11-29-2020 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar

inb4 UNLV clips UNC tmr.
unlv got clobbered by montana st. in their only game so far. I don't think they could beat a special olympics team right now so UNC should be safe.
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11-29-2020 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 702guy
unlv got clobbered by montana st. in their only game so far. I don't think they could beat a special olympics team right now so UNC should be safe.
Yeah, I don't think UNC loses tmr. I was trying to make a point.
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11-29-2020 , 09:10 PM
Hoo boy Juwan better figure out how to beat a junky zone and fast
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11-29-2020 , 09:22 PM
I believe the one and done rule is done in two years. Is that true? If it is, do you think it will positively affect the play in college basketball? IMO, the quality of play in college basketball has been going down for the past 15 years.
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11-29-2020 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
Hoo boy Juwan better figure out how to beat a junky zone and fast

Getting the ball to Dickinson a very sound strategy, he’s really impressing as a passer.

Very ugly win but whatever. Just get better.
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11-29-2020 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by onedollaratatime
I believe the one and done rule is done in two years. Is that true? If it is, do you think it will positively affect the play in college basketball? IMO, the quality of play in college basketball has been going down for the past 15 years.
I'm not sure. If so, it would be great for the game of cbb. I couldn't care less if a Durant or a Zion doesn't play cbb for a year, as long as it means that teams can grow and gel over several years with players that must be on campus a minimun of three years (the baseball rule is the sweet spot imo).

I agree that the quality has really deteriorated. A combination of coach k making hand checking such a common defensive tactic and teams taking half their shots from 3. That's not the game of cbb I came up on and enjoyed so much.

As it is, I've lost interest with the game of basketball in general. The NBA is unwatchable to me and now I only watch UNC games and MM. And I have Xfinity, so I don't even get the UNC games on the ACCN.
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11-30-2020 , 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
I'm not sure. If so, it would be great for the game of cbb. I couldn't care less if a Durant or a Zion doesn't play cbb for a year, as long as it means that teams can grow and gel over several years with players that must be on campus a minimun of three years (the baseball rule is the sweet spot imo).

I agree that the quality has really deteriorated. A combination of coach k making hand checking such a common defensive tactic and teams taking half their shots from 3. That's not the game of cbb I came up on and enjoyed so much.

As it is, I've lost interest with the game of basketball in general. The NBA is unwatchable to me and now I only watch UNC games and MM. And I have Xfinity, so I don't even get the UNC games on the ACCN.
I agree with your general sentiment. But baseball rules just doesn't quite work with college basketball. For example Ja Morant would be forced to play a third year with Murray State. But maybe something like a coalition that looks at the Zions and Durants and Jas of the world and says they need to go straight to draft
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11-30-2020 , 09:32 AM
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Really? Who are the shooters? 4 for 18 from 3s (1 for 10 in the 2nd half).

Same **** as last season. In today's cbb, you better be ripping off more than four 3s a game (and obv you need a passable shooting % from 3 too).

As nasty as we could be on the inside this season, without shooters our ceiling is S16.
Lol at the one game extrapolation. The 3 isn’t nearly as important in college as the NBA. We will hit enough 3s to keep defenses honest and let our big dudes go to work. Our rebounding and defensive potential are sky high. I’m way more optimistic than you.

RJ shot 38% from 3 in high school. Caleb was 35%. Walker was 35%. Puff was 46%. Anthony Harris hit 43% in his limit action last season. I can’t find Kerwin’s high school stats, but his 247 profile says 3 point shooting is his best attribute. We will be fine from 3.

By the end of the season, we will likely still be running 10 deep. Maybe 11 as Roy likes Platek, but I think he will be tough to play by the end of it. Our depth is insane. We are going to run teams into the ground. I personally think we are underrated. And that’s pretty rare for me to think about a UNC team coming into the season. Usually I think we are overrated lol.

Caleb
RJ
Garrison
Bacot
Day’Ron
Walker
Harris
Kerwin
Puff
Leaky
Platek

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11-30-2020 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by chuckleslovakian
I agree with your general sentiment. But baseball rules just doesn't quite work with college basketball. For example Ja Morant would be forced to play a third year with Murray State. But maybe something like a coalition that looks at the Zions and Durants and Jas of the world and says they need to go straight to draft
I’m in favor of a 2 year rule. I think 3 is too long for CBB. Let guys go straight form high school if they want, but if you opt for college, 2 is the minimum.
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11-30-2020 , 10:09 AM
I think having a rule where out of high school you are allowed to go straight to the nba. But if you decide to go to college, there is a 2 year minimum would really benefit college basketball. That and getting a whole new set of referees. Because college basketball officiating is the nut low
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11-30-2020 , 11:35 AM
Lol. The refs are awful. I can't stand the dramatics of most of them. It's like the refs think the fans are there to watch the refs. There is a long list of guys that are so bad. Karl Hess. TV Ted. Luckie. And plenty more. **** 'em.
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11-30-2020 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
Lol at the one game extrapolation. The 3 isn’t nearly as important in college as the NBA. We will hit enough 3s to keep defenses honest and let our big dudes go to work. Our rebounding and defensive potential are sky high. I’m way more optimistic than you.

RJ shot 38% from 3 in high school. Caleb was 35%. Walker was 35%. Puff was 46%. Anthony Harris hit 43% in his limit action last season. I can’t find Kerwin’s high school stats, but his 247 profile says 3 point shooting is his best attribute. We will be fine from 3.

By the end of the season, we will likely still be running 10 deep. Maybe 11 as Roy likes Platek, but I think he will be tough to play by the end of it. Our depth is insane. We are going to run teams into the ground. I personally think we are underrated. And that’s pretty rare for me to think about a UNC team coming into the season. Usually I think we are overrated lol.

Caleb
RJ
Garrison
Bacot
Day’Ron
Walker
Harris
Kerwin
Puff
Leaky
Platek
Do you have a cite for this? I'd be curious to read it if you do.

I'll believe it when I see it on the court. Roy and Hubert haven't shown me the ability to create/improve shooters of late.

Yes. Yes they are.

You may be. The potential is there for a F4 type of team. However, we're relying on a ton of minutes from freshmen and you know how that can go (see last year with Cole and Bacot).

Another factor to keep in mind this season is that there could be periods that teams/leagues are shut down. We may have limited practices and games which obv favors experienced teams. Also, there's speculation that MM could take the form of a 32-team tournament (or, perhaps even a 16-team tournament), so every game is critical. It's doubtful teams will play over 30 games this year. A team may struggle to get 20 regular season games played. So winning early and often is important (especially if MM is a 16-team tournament).

The good news is the quality of our bigs. Roy has a proven blueprint for success and it requires two capable bigs in the game at all times. With a fully healthy squad, we have that this year in spades.
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11-30-2020 , 12:42 PM
A lot of my statement was based on the eye test and the fact that the average college team just isn't shooting as relatively well from 3 as the average NBA team. It's not to say that the 3 in college isn't important, but if the team is really good at other things like scoring inside, rebounding, defense, etc. then the lack of 3 isn't as big of an issue as it may be in the NBA.

Last 5 NCAA champions

Virginia - ranked 7 shooting 39.5% from 3.

Villanova - ranked 11 shooting 40.1% from 3.

UNC - Ranked 149 shooting 35.5% from 3.

Villanova - Ranked 105 shooting 36.2% from 3.

Duke - Ranked 25 shooting 38.7% from 3.

If we can settle into the 35% range, and I think we will, we will be fine. I have no doubts we will be better than the 30% we shot last season.

I think our freshman are much better in the sense of talent and quantity than Cole and Bacot last year. Cole was also hurt for pretty much the whole season. I actually think Bacot is the 4th best big of the rotation with Garrison, Day'Ron, and Kessler all ahead of him. But yes, relying on freshman, especially in Roy's system is a question mark. Roy has only ever won with experienced talent. But as you say, this squad fits Roy's mold, so I'm excited to see where he can take them.

I hope COVID doesn't disrupt things too much, but yes, that is also another possibility. Who knows how that will go? I'm just choosing to look at things as normal as possible, and I'm stoked to see what we look like in Feb and Mar.
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11-30-2020 , 09:29 PM
Next couple days pretty loaded with games

Tomorrow: IU/Texas, Michigan State/Duke, Kentucky /Kansas, and maybe UNC/Stanford

Day After: Baylor/Illinois, Gonzaga/West Virginia, and Maui Championship
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11-30-2020 , 10:09 PM
College basketball has arrived! UNC/Stanford is confirmed.

We started slow tonight down 13-0. Ended up winning 78-51. I'm excited to see how we play tomorrow.
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11-30-2020 , 10:48 PM
Actually, UNC/Stanford has not been confirmed lmao. I got ahead of myself with excitement. Last year was rough as a UNC fan, so this team is giving me the feels already.

It would be a fun matchup, though.

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11-30-2020 , 11:24 PM
That was probably IU's most impressive game of the Archie era. It was complete domination of a supposedly decent team on a neutral court while your best player by a mile was having a terrible game. IU still lacks creation from the point and the wings. Galloway going to try to fill that role. Probably a letdown tomorrow.
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12-01-2020 , 11:50 AM
Good luck. Looks like you’re favored by 2. It should be a fun game. I’m stoked basketball begins in less than 2 hours.
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12-01-2020 , 03:59 PM
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That was probably IU's most impressive game of the Archie era. It was complete domination of a supposedly decent team on a neutral court while your best player by a mile was having a terrible game. IU still lacks creation from the point and the wings. Galloway going to try to fill that role. Probably a letdown tomorrow.
From their best Archie era game, to possibly their worst Archie era half. SMH.

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I wonder if this jeopardizes tonight's KU/UK game?


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12-01-2020 , 04:33 PM
the hope was short lived
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12-01-2020 , 05:51 PM
I cashed out a couple bets at a small loss just to have more money to throw at the Texas ML when I saw they were dogs. Felt like such free money. Archie Miller is truly as bad an offensive coach as Fran Mccafrey is defensively.
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