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Is Kenpom still using weighting from last year?

ASU is 9-0 and beat KP #7 Kansas by 10 on the road, #12 Xavier by 12 neutral, #50 St Johns by 12 neutral and #62 SDSU by 22 at home.

Their only close game is a 2 point win over #43 K State, neutral.

Their 4 wins against bad teams are all by 18+

How can ASU be #35 in Kenpom?

Ranked behind USC, who is 4-3 with a 16 point loss to ATM, a 17 point loss to SMU and a 2 point loss to Oklahoma and whose best win is by 4 in OT against #76 Vanderbilt.

Like, how does this all add up?

Arizona State has the second worst power conference defense in the nation(shout out ti Archie Miller and Indiana for having the worst).

Edit: appears they have moved up to 13 in Sagarin but still 23rd in BPI

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12-12-2017 , 09:49 PM

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In ASU's two big wins vs Xavier and Kansas

They went 13/27 from 3 vs Xavier while still giving up 116.2 points/100 possessions

14/28 from 3 vs Kansas while still giving up 106.3/100

Prob running hot and really around the 25th or so best team in the nation but everyone overreacted and ranked them 5th because human polls are awful.

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12-13-2017 , 01:18 AM

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Duke’s DRTG: 100.4
ASU’s: 100.8

Duke’s SOS: 97
ASU’s: 84

ASU’s getting 30fta/game, shooting 42.7% from three, and 58% from two. Offense is diverse, and regression ain’t gonna be too much of a *****.

ASU CLEARLY a top-10 team thus far. Lagging indicators gonna lag.

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12-13-2017 , 07:06 AM

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just bet them 40-1 to win it all. GO SUN DEVILS

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12-13-2017 , 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ReddBoiler

Ya I wasn't actually asking "how good is ASU really?" I was asking "how can Kenpom, given the way I think Kenpom works, have them ranked so low?" to which the answer is "It still weights preseason stuff" which makes sense

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12-13-2017 , 02:11 PM

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and obv that 154th ranked defense needs to be factored into one's thinking. typically, teams w/ these types of defenses aren't elite.

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12-13-2017 , 02:11 PM

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Well how about next time, instead of looking a gift horse in the mouth, you accept your blessing without comment?

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12-13-2017 , 08:17 PM

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This is fair.

I found it on Reddit, was great. Not sure what school made it.

I'm hoping to catch a Cuse game over break - I don't think they play Pitt at home during that time though. Bonnies and GTown look like good ones. Bonnies will be cheaper I bet so I'll probably end up at that one.

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12-16-2017 , 01:31 PM

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It's 12:31 and Georgetown still sucks

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12-16-2017 , 04:05 PM

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Cuse comes back from 13 down in the 2nd half to cover the spread in OT.

Hoya suxa

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12-16-2017 , 04:25 PM

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Does VT have a single defensive rebound? They just seem so uninterested in defense or boxing out

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12-16-2017 , 04:57 PM

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#123 Kenpom making #2 Kenpom sweat

Lol Kenpom

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12-16-2017 , 05:20 PM

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Trae Young killing against Wichita

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12-16-2017 , 05:54 PM

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Trae Young 21 points 7 assists 4 rebounds at the half against Wichita State.

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12-16-2017 , 06:02 PM

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No turnovers and his team has missed several open shots he’s created against a top defense on the road.

He looks legit.

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12-16-2017 , 06:22 PM

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No turnovers and his team has missed several open shots he’s created against a top defense on the road.

He looks legit.

Leads the nation in usage at 35+% and has an ORtg of 129.7. He's been insane this year. Probably the clear favorite for National Player of the year at this point.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb...e-young-1.html

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12-16-2017 , 06:25 PM

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I dont think you can even slurp him enough to do him justice. He is just whipping one handed passes across the court with accuracy generating open looks from 3 for his teammates - killing the help defense as it starts to rotate over towards him. He's gotta be one of the most entertaining players I've watched in a while.

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12-16-2017 , 06:27 PM

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Yep, really Nash-like.

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12-16-2017 , 06:35 PM

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Trae throwing passes on the pnr that look just like those in the Doncic vids.

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12-16-2017 , 06:41 PM

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Trae's the GOAT man. Going to be really fun watching him shred defenses on his way to the final four this March.

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12-17-2017 , 08:38 PM

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Good atmosphere today at WFA. Defense up to 122!

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12-17-2017 , 09:54 PM

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I'm going to the game on Friday. My old boss at work has season tickets and had an extra.

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12-18-2017 , 08:29 AM

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UMass with back to back road wins against providence and georgia. Defenitely overachieving in McCall's first year. We'll see how long he stays here. I like him alot.