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03-02-2011 , 10:43 PM
They better bring a hell of a lot more than they did last time. A repeat of 41 pts and 27 rebounds from our bigs vs the 10 and 24 from them doesn't=ok without Nolan and Curry going lights out crazy again
03-02-2011 , 10:46 PM
Cruisin is somewhat right in that an 11th place team should never, ever have a shot at a championship. But that's what we get with a tournament that has overgrown how big it should be.
03-02-2011 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TomCollins
Cruisin is somewhat right in that an 11th place team should never, ever have a shot at a championship. But that's what we get with a tournament that has overgrown how big it should be.
Everyone has a shot at a championship as long as your conference has a tournament and an auto bid. All you need to do is win 10 games in a row.

Would you prefer the BCS?
03-02-2011 , 10:51 PM
marquette/cincy would still be in if there were 64 teams afaik?

i dont get the talk that the tourney is bloated. there's 330 d-1 basketball teams..
03-02-2011 , 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by gmcarroll33
They better bring a hell of a lot more than they did last time. A repeat of 41 pts and 27 rebounds from our bigs vs the 10 and 24 from them doesn't=ok without Nolan and Curry going lights out crazy again
Well I would assume Nolan is gonna go off if I was you. Happens almost every game.
03-02-2011 , 11:07 PM
whats up with all this UNC is a possible final 4 team talk?

theyve done nothing that makes them seem like one

Last edited by GimmeDat; 03-02-2011 at 11:08 PM. Reason: except won a few games against some "bad" according to other posters itt acc teams?
03-02-2011 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by brendoh
there's 330 d-1 basketball teams..
I think it is 345.

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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
Well I would assume Nolan is gonna go off if I was you. Happens almost every game.
Qft

Runner up poy IMO.
03-02-2011 , 11:08 PM
Sorry in advance for wall of text

Here are my tourney projections as of today...obviously, a lot will change between now and 11 days from now, but we are starting to get a clearer picture of some things. Also, remember that there are 68 teams this year instead of 65. Here we go...

Conferences that only have a shot at one bid (14): America East, Big Sky, Big South, Big West, Metro Atlantic, Mid-American, Mid-Eastern, Northeast, Ohio Valley, Patriot, Southern, Southland, SWAC, Sun Belt.

ACC (4): Duke, North Carolina, Florida State, Virginia Tech

Down to four this week in the ACC, but Clemson, I think could get in with 2-3 more wins including their play in the conference tournament. Maryland and Boston College probably need at least that, too, to get consideration. Virginia Tech is looking safer after defeating Duke at home, but they need to win another game or two to feel totally secure. Somebody will likely finish strong and give this league a fifth bid...right now, though, only four are currently worthy.

Atlantic Ten (3): Xavier, Temple, Richmond

Xavier and Temple are looking good for bids right now, but Richmond remains in only by the skin of their teeth. There are no longer other contenders for at-large bids in this conference, so it comes down to Richmond finishing strong. If they don't, the A-10 will become a two-bid league barring an upset in conference tournament play.

Atlantic Sun (1-2): Belmont

Hopefully, Belmont will win the conference tournament in a conference they've thoroughly dominated this year. If they don't, their chances of making it in as an at-large aren't great, but they're not dead, either. The team could get to nearly 30 wins without winning the conference tourney title, and that's pretty solid considering Big Dance expansion.

Big East (11): Pittsburgh, Notre Dame, Louisville, St. John's, Syracuse, Georgetown, Connecticut, Villanova, West Virginia, Cincinnati, Marquette

Talk about re-defining the term "power conference". The Big East is over the top loaded this year and almost a shoo-in for ten, or even eleven teams. Marquette has to be added to the field this week as they are finishing strong. I would be very surprised at this point if this conference gets anything short of eleven teams in. Marquette would have to collapse for that to happen. Everybody else should be safely in.

Big 12 (5): Kansas, Texas, Missouri, Texas A&M, Kansas State

Things have sort of worked themselves out in the Big 12 where now these five teams stand out as tournament worthy. Some projections have Colorado and Baylor still in the at-large mix as well, but I think those two teams are a ways off right now from consideration and would have to advance deep into the Big 12 tourney to get a serious look.

Big Ten (5): Ohio State, Purdue, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan State

The first three here are locks, obviously, but then it's kind of a mess. Michigan State is currently my last team in and they need to win two more games in my mind to realistically feel comfortable about themselves. Illinois also falls into that category. Both of those teams could split their final two games and then win a conference tourney game and that should be enough. Or, they could win their final two games. Anything less than that, though, and it's shaky. Michigan, Penn State, and Minnesota need to go deep into the Big 10 tourney at this point to get in, I believe.

Colonial (2-3): George Mason, Old Dominion

One of the premeir mid-major conferences, the expansion to 68 teams this year means the Colonial will get a deserving two teams in. Both of these teams are in solid shape right now. There's also a shot at a third bid via an upset in the conference tourney. I think these two are near locks right now, so that sort of upset won't change their spots in the field, but it might make other "bubble" teams uncomfortable.

Conference USA (1-2): UAB

I just can't keep reserving two bids for a league in which the teams are as fickle as this bunch. I do think UAB would have the best chance at an at-large should they fail to win the C-USA tourney, but beyond them, the other teams aren't impressing anyone much at the moment. UTEP, Memphis, and Southern Miss are the teams I'm referring to...we'll see if any of them can get hot this week and make a case.

Horizon (1-2): Cleveland State/Butler

Much like the Colonial, the Horizon has grown into what the MAC used to be...a top tier mid-major conference. However, Cleveland State's at-large case has been severely weakened of late and now they're a longshot to gain consideration. Butler is in a little better standing, but has to advance to the Horizon conference tourney final to get a look. I think in the end, one bid for the Horizon is more likely, but there's still slim hopes for something beyond that.

Ivy (1-2): Princeton/Harvard

Another banner year for the Ivy with two very good teams vying for the conference title. Would the committee consider two teams from this conference? It's unlikely, but with the bubble being so soft right now, don't rule it out just yet.

Missouri Valley (1-2): Missouri State

Wichita State's at-large chances are dead now, and so it's Missouri State that has the only shot at an at-large bid. The Bears have been hosed plenty of times before, but I'm not sure they deserve to go this year even in an expanded field. Winning the regular season title won't hurt them, though, and if they get to the MVC tournament final and lose a heart-breaker, they'll be in the discussion.

Mountain West (3): Brigham Young, San Diego State, UNLV

With an RPI better than the ACC, the MWC is going to get three teams in, no questions asked. However, I've got Colorado State on the outside looking in this week. They need to win three more games to get that turned around and that may be a tall order. Stay tuned.

Pac-10 (3): Arizona, UCLA, Washington

Again this week, a fairly clear cut conference. Washington State has lost all momentum, leaving the conference almost certainly at three bids. Washington needs to finish strong or they could get placed on the "bubble", though, so that's worth keeping an eye on.

SEC (6): Florida, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee

This is going to end up being a five-bid league, I think. In order to get six in (where I have it now), Alabama, Tennessee, and Georgia all need to finish strong. One of those three won't be up to that task and therefore I do think one will lose their bid in the next twelve days. All three MUST win two more games minimum to get in.

Summit (1-2): Oakland

Would the committee actually put a team in with double-digit losses who resides in the Summit League? Very, very doubtful. Yet, this team has played well against the big boys this year. Here's hoping they get the auto invite from this league as they deserve it.

West Coast (1-2): St. Mary's/Gonzaga

See the Horizon league. St. Mary's represents Cleveland State. Gonzaga represents Butler. This is likely going to be a one-bid league, but if either teams loses in a close conference tourney final, they will draw consideration.

WAC (1-2): Utah State

That Bracket Buster win on the road at St. Mary's should have sealed the deal for Utah State. I think they're in no matter what now...other bubble teams just have to hope that they win their conference tourney to keep the WAC at one bid only. Not everyone has them as secure as I do, but they'd be hard-pressed to leave a team inside the top 20 in RPI out in a 68-team field. Won't happen.

Top Sixteen Seeds (as of today):

#1- Ohio State, Kansas, Brigham Young, Pittsburgh
#2- Duke, Purdue, Notre Dame, Texas
#3- San Diego State, Syracuse, Wisconsin, North Carolina
#4- Florida, Louisville, Georgetown, Arizona

Thoughts??
03-02-2011 , 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by brendoh
marquette/cincy would still be in if there were 64 teams afaik?
yes, only team with a chance to miss the field is marquette--the others would still make the field in a 50 team touranment.
03-02-2011 , 11:20 PM
Summit, Ivy, Missouri Valley, Atlantic Sun are one bid leagues unless the committee goes crazy with the valley (they wouldn't let Missouri State in with a 21 RPI they're not gonna now) While Belmont has performed very well vs Tennessee twice and could've won either game they haven't beaten anyone of note and I think the committee views actual W/L's stronger than we do. Btw--you're still 4 bids or so short so some of those "must win x games" may not have to in order to get in. Ivy and Summit leagues have a 0% chance to get an at large. Zero.

CUSA might get in 2 but they haven't done a darn thing to deserve it.

WCC is likely gonna sneak in both Zags and St. Mary's provided one of them doesn't royally screw up (in st.mary's case again) between now and the conference final.

we agree that Utah State is in.

Maryland's at large hopes are dead. Only the 6th in the B12 (Baylor/Colorado/Nebraska) has a chance but they've got to win the final game + do something in the conf tournament. Colorado and Nebraska would be so so close if they didn't lose to Iowa State this week.

Georgetown won't get a 4 seed unless Wright does come back.
03-02-2011 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GimmeDat
whats up with all this UNC is a possible final 4 team talk?

theyve done nothing that makes them seem like one
who is saying that?

most unc fans say we aren't a F4 team cause we can't shoot. we have been a significantly better team without LDII which is why I think people are changing their tune. it's like duke fans forgot how bad we were pounding them in the first half in durham when we forgot how to shoot or play for an entire half. the other worry is the bench is kinda short for UNC and we have a ton of underclassman who have hardly any post season experience. honestly you are just a really dumb troll...not sure why i am answering you. we are a small dark horse that's about it. great D...not much else.
03-02-2011 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
Everyone has a shot at a championship as long as your conference has a tournament and an auto bid. All you need to do is win 10 games in a row.

Would you prefer the BCS?
You don't need to go the extreme opposite direction. But in a lot of ways, the BCS is preferable to a 68/96/128 team tournament. It makes things exciting during the playoffs, and more teams have something to look forward to, but it really cheapens everything.

I'm not even a fan of the automatic berth based on the conference tournament. I like the way the Ivy does it.

Basketball is nice because you can easily play a lot of games to determine a champion in a short time period. There's no reason to have any more than 32 teams in the Big Dance. Even 16 is sufficient. There's just too many damn teams in D1 for basketball.

It's a very exciting month, and I love watching it, but it is a pretty terrible way to determine a champion.
03-02-2011 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TomCollins
You don't need to go the extreme opposite direction. But in a lot of ways, the BCS is preferable to a 68/96/128 team tournament. It makes things exciting during the playoffs, and more teams have something to look forward to, but it really cheapens everything.

I'm not even a fan of the automatic berth based on the conference tournament. I like the way the Ivy does it.

Basketball is nice because you can easily play a lot of games to determine a champion in a short time period. There's no reason to have any more than 32 teams in the Big Dance. Even 16 is sufficient. There's just too many damn teams in D1 for basketball.

It's a very exciting month, and I love watching it, but it is a pretty terrible way to determine a champion.
What outside team has won the title the last 20 years? even with all the crappy teams, the top teams almost always win the eventually title. you'll get your George Mason and Butler sneaking in...but they never seem to finish things.
03-02-2011 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GimmeDat
whats up with all this UNC is a possible final 4 taike
Unc too young to be a f4 pick.
03-02-2011 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by brendoh
marquette/cincy would still be in if there were 64 teams afaik?

i dont get the talk that the tourney is bloated. there's 330 d-1 basketball teams..
There is no reason for 200+ of them to even be in the same division as the top teams.
03-02-2011 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by capone0
What outside team has won the title the last 20 years? even with all the crappy teams, the top teams almost always win the eventually title. you'll get your George Mason and Butler sneaking in...but they never seem to finish things.
one bankshot 3 away....

Syracuse was a 3 seed with Carmelo and won--yeah recently it's been 1 or 2 seeds but there have been stretches where a 4 or a 5 was making the title game quite a bit (sometimes won sometimes didn't).
03-02-2011 , 11:33 PM
Lol acc refs.
03-02-2011 , 11:33 PM
the reffing in this duke game has been embarrassing
03-02-2011 , 11:36 PM
duke gets all the calls ****s
03-02-2011 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
one bankshot 3 away....

Syracuse was a 3 seed with Carmelo and won--yeah recently it's been 1 or 2 seeds but there have been stretches where a 4 or a 5 was making the title game quite a bit (sometimes won sometimes didn't).
I think Florida was a 3 or 4 seed as well but we found out later how really good they were.

Zona i don't think was that highly rated when they won either. But there are normally only around 16 teams that have a chance and normally one of those 16 wins it. The other 48 teams or so just add in the excitement.
03-02-2011 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
one bankshot 3 away....

Syracuse was a 3 seed with Carmelo and won--yeah recently it's been 1 or 2 seeds but there have been stretches where a 4 or a 5 was making the title game quite a bit (sometimes won sometimes didn't).

Butler sneaking in? Are you serious? They held every team under 60pts minus duke who scored 61....Butler last year was not a fluke and was easily a top 10 team and proved it to everyone.

They dismantled teams last year and took them out of their elements and made them play their game... something good teams can do
03-02-2011 , 11:38 PM
Duke refs gonna duke ref. Gotta get your last few calls in before neutral site games start.
03-02-2011 , 11:39 PM
god can kyrie just risk his career to play for duke in march please


nah jk hes gonna be the next good pg in the nba hopefully
03-02-2011 , 11:39 PM
LOLLLLL calling a moving screen duke moves every time they set a screen

lol at elmore openly trolling the refs at this pt
03-02-2011 , 11:40 PM
GG Terps. .

Saw that UNC has had 16 players appear in a game. Are you allowed to dress 16? For some reason I thought it was 15.

      
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