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View Poll Results: who rang?
Los Angeles Lakers 17 35.42%
Brooklyn Nets 6 12.50%
Milwaukee Bucks 3 6.25%
Los Angeles Clippers 4 8.33%
Boston Celtics 2 4.17%
Philadelphia 76ers 0 0%
Miami Heat 0 0%
Denver Nuggets 4 8.33%
Dallas Mavericks 6 12.50%
other (shoot your shot) 6 12.50%
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Old 06-23-2021, 06:16 PM   #9526
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Why wouldn't Lopez hold up?

They didn't attack Harden on D at all. He hid on Tucker mostly and the bucks didn't involve him. I'm not saying he will, but it is pretty tough to do so.

I think the nets, Blake in particular, did a good job on Giannis, and Milwaukee just ran bad shooting the ball. That's kind of the thing with Giannis though, the Suns would probably play good D vs him and things would look ugly at times but he is still such a freak that he's going to go like 8 BPM. Which is kind of hard to overcome when your best player is like a 4 BPM guy.

Beating the nets with KD playing the way he was and with Blake, Bruce Brown, and even Jeff Green stepping up is still a nice win. Also overcoming those game 7 refs.

I think Suns-Bucks would be a close series though. Yesterday before game 2, when both teams had about the same odds to win their conference finals, Milwaukee was -105 to title and Phoenix was +130 if I recall.
Lopez could have a lot of trouble playing conventional pick and roll defense vs CP/Ayton. Not saying this will happen for sure, but potential exists. That is 1 nice thing about the Suns, you can't really go small vs Ayton and you can't go big vs CP with most bigs. Makes it very tough to find a good defensive lineup. You need an AD or Giannis probably, luckily for the Bucks they do have Giannis. However, taking Lopez off the floor for Connaughton is a legit downgrade.

As far as Harden goes, they hid him on Tucker but by game 6 the Bucks realized the Nets had no transition game and just had Tucker crash the offensive boards as Harden was very physically limited to box him out. Offensive rebounding (again because no threat of transition) kept the Bucks in the first half of gm 7 when their offense was gross as well. When I say milk, I didn't mean involve in the action every play, I meant just a general massive liability in his current hobbled form.

They also involved Harden/Griffin in pick and roll late in game 7 which led to 2 huge Holiday buckets in the 4th (step back 3 and baseline jumper)

His rotations were generally awful in those 3 games as well. I thought they were clearly better with him out here, but his defense was a major issue in the 1st half of game 5 especially.


It is a nice win in the sense it was KD + HC but that version of the Nets was clearly inferior and I think the Suns would wax them a lot easier.

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Old 06-23-2021, 06:56 PM   #9527
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I didn't realize calls in the past were not ruled like this one was. But I think if a player can cause a slight losing of the grip off the ball by the dribbler, more power to him. I look at it like if the defender poked the ball causing the defender to fumble the ball OOB, then still a turnover. This case here is like the defender caused a micro-fumble.
"Fumble" is the key word there, that implies an additional later contact by the player who had possession. I mean, look at this part of the rule:

"If a player has his hand in contact with the ball and an opponent hits that part of the hand causing the ball to go out-of-bounds, the team whose player had his hand on the ball will retain possession."

That little exception existing makes it clear what the 'spirit' of the rule is IMO. They just need to explicitly line up the rule technically.

"Last person to initiate contact" is in line with how it's always been called, is spiritually in line with other OOB rules, is far easier to judge (noone wants 5 min replays), the list goes on
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Old 06-23-2021, 08:13 PM   #9528
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Trigga Trae Time
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Old 06-23-2021, 08:27 PM   #9529
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Bogi is available for Hawks as is Reddish although seems doubtful he gets on the court

maybe Snell can get back in the groove and pick up some slack
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Old 06-23-2021, 09:07 PM   #9530
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Hawks 1/12 from 3 - standard
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Old 06-23-2021, 09:27 PM   #9531
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think Hawks have to pull Bogi if he can't be a threat

give his minutes to Snell
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Old 06-23-2021, 09:45 PM   #9532
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1st half cliffs? Trae just kill Lopez in PnR and hit a bunch of floaters?

Bucks seem to be having no problems scoring despite horrible shooting
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Old 06-23-2021, 10:01 PM   #9533
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Bucks falling apart

Hawks such a likeable team.
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Old 06-23-2021, 10:03 PM   #9534
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Trae goat

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Old 06-23-2021, 10:04 PM   #9535
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Old 06-23-2021, 10:05 PM   #9536
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Between that and the board oop it's like woah
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Old 06-23-2021, 10:07 PM   #9537
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Old 06-23-2021, 10:08 PM   #9538
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That was a horrible TO by Nate lol

they were cooking Portis and GIannis was sitting
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Old 06-23-2021, 10:08 PM   #9539
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yep and yep. love it.
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Old 06-23-2021, 10:12 PM   #9540
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1st half cliffs? Trae just kill Lopez in PnR and hit a bunch of floaters?

Bucks seem to be having no problems scoring despite horrible shooting
pretty much - then Trae getting the lob game going when they come out on him
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lol Marv. blind af. Gallinari was 2 feet inside the 3-point-line

then he doubled down on it during a replay of the shot
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Old 06-23-2021, 10:19 PM   #9542
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lol Marv. blind af. Gallinari was 2 feet inside the 3-point-line

then he doubled down on it during a replay of the shot
Nothing like sticking to your guns.
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Old 06-23-2021, 10:20 PM   #9543
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Bucks can't really stress the bad hawks defenders similar to how Philly couldn't

spread pick and roll teams just get these guys off the court so fast or compromise their value (Lou, Gallo, even Bog in his current form)
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Old 06-23-2021, 10:21 PM   #9544
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Nothing like sticking to your guns.
he did it again on a future Gallinari shot, a minute or 2 later that I missed, but looked quickly to see the on-TVscreen score only register a 2 point increase lmao
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Old 06-23-2021, 10:28 PM   #9545
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need a little more Red Velvet down the stretch
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Old 06-23-2021, 10:43 PM   #9546
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Hawks absolutely killed the no Lopez lineup on the boards

Middleton 6/22 0/8 lol oof

Suns gonna wreck either of these teams
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Old 06-23-2021, 10:45 PM   #9547
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This is fun.
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Old 06-23-2021, 10:52 PM   #9548
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Trigga Trae!
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Old 06-23-2021, 10:54 PM   #9549
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Why wouldn't Lopez hold up?
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Old 06-23-2021, 10:59 PM   #9550
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rare good thing to come out of the pandemic - made me get NBA league pass to watch all the Hawks game - totally worth it

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