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View Poll Results: who rang?
Los Angeles Lakers 17 35.42%
Brooklyn Nets 6 12.50%
Milwaukee Bucks 3 6.25%
Los Angeles Clippers 4 8.33%
Boston Celtics 2 4.17%
Philadelphia 76ers 0 0%
Miami Heat 0 0%
Denver Nuggets 4 8.33%
Dallas Mavericks 6 12.50%
other (shoot your shot) 6 12.50%
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Old 06-15-2021, 12:02 AM   #8326
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Re: NBA Season Thread 2020-2021

Odds:

1. That Hbob has been following TZ the last 3 years regularly?
2. That Hbob hasn't been following TZ with regularity BUT that he checked TZ since The Athletic article came out?
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Old 06-15-2021, 12:13 AM   #8327
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He's worth 9 figures at this point from BTC I think so I doubt he's too worried about a few of us jabbing his trades.

Nice response from Clippers.....Clarkson coming back to earth means Jazz need Conley back, although Ingles does give them a little more size on D. Wonder if he can go in gm 5.
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Old 06-15-2021, 12:17 AM   #8328
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There's at least 15 guys I'd rather have than Embiid. There's 100 guys I'd rather have than Ben Simmons. How is this guy a perennial all-star? LOL regular season
Total disrespect. Obviously with regards to Embiid who anyone with eyeballs notices is at an elite level but Simmons also. Simmon's athleticism and ball handling, passing, etc resemble a Lebron James in his prime that cannot shoot. If Simmons could shoot the basketball he would probably be in the conversation for top ten of all time. Obviously that's a huge part of basketball and Lebron was able to get to an elite level of scoring from many different angles but Simmons does everything else at a very elite level and teams have to respect his ability to bull charge and score the basketball at a similar level to the prime Lebron years.

Just open your eyes a bit man.
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Old 06-15-2021, 12:17 AM   #8329
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Gobert heating up.
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Old 06-15-2021, 12:33 AM   #8330
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always like these analysts saying how there's a lot of time left for the teams getting blown out, when their actual win probability is like 0.3%
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Old 06-15-2021, 12:36 AM   #8331
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always like these analysts saying how there's a lot of time left for the teams getting blown out, when their actual win probability is like 0.3%
They've been instructed to give hope to the audience for a competitive game down the stretch so they don't tune out.
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Old 06-15-2021, 01:01 AM   #8332
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So all tied up at 2-2 but the Clippers have outscored the Jazz by 31 overall. Would be a pretty big form turnaround for Jazz to win from here even with the extra home game.
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Old 06-15-2021, 01:02 AM   #8333
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That's Mitchell for you, he'll go 1/13 on a half and finish 12/26 for 36 points. Kawhi is an absolute treat to watch when he's locked in on defense, maybe he IS BPITL.
Very prescient.
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Old 06-15-2021, 01:17 AM   #8334
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So all tied up at 2-2 but the Clippers have outscored the Jazz by 31 overall. Would be a pretty big form turnaround for Jazz to win from here even with the extra home game.
but...the jazz best player went 4/4. if he just shoots more they win. ez game!
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Old 06-15-2021, 01:23 AM   #8335
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So all tied up at 2-2 but the Clippers have outscored the Jazz by 31 overall. Would be a pretty big form turnaround for Jazz to win from here even with the extra home game.
What makes this even more interesting are the shooting numbers. Bear in mind the Clipse were the better shooting team and are going small which theoretically benefits shooting.

G1 - Clipse 38% Jazz 34% - Jazz win by 3
G2 - Clipse 37% Jazz 51% - Jazz win by 6
G3 - Clipse 53% Jazz 43% - Clipse win by 26
G4 - Clipse 41% Jazz 41% - Clipse win by 14

Judging by the shooting variance numbers, it would seem to me that the Clippers are less reliant on shooting luck. The teams are basically dead-even in 3 point shooting percentages thus far in this series, but the Clippers are +7.7 overall.
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Old 06-15-2021, 01:25 AM   #8336
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So all tied up at 2-2 but the Clippers have outscored the Jazz by 31 overall. Would be a pretty big form turnaround for Jazz to win from here even with the extra home game.
The Jazz, much like the WOKELYN Nets, are fu.cked.
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Old 06-15-2021, 01:26 AM   #8337
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Very prescient.
Ha broken clock.
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Old 06-15-2021, 01:34 AM   #8338
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Steve Nash needs to pull a 2015 Cavaliers NBA Finals type strategy and slow the game down tremendously for the Nets to have a chance to win.

Make it a grit or grind affair where Durant not only scores but does EVERYTHING on the court (I'm talking DEFENSE, REBOUNDING, ASSISTS, HUSTLE PLAYS) and THEN and ONLY THEN can you win G5.

AiMcL has spoken.

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Old 06-15-2021, 01:47 AM   #8339
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Speaking of which, it still blows my mind that Lebron got a 2-1 lead on the god damn Warriors sans Kyrie and Kevin Love in the finals. Holy hell playoff Lebron was a beast.
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Old 06-15-2021, 01:52 AM   #8340
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Steve Nash needs to pull a 2015 Cavaliers NBA Finals type strategy and slow the game down tremendously for the Nets to have a chance to win.

Make it a grit or grind affair where Durant not only scores but does EVERYTHING on the court (I'm talking DEFENSE, REBOUNDING, ASSISTS, HUSTLE PLAYS) and THEN and ONLY THEN can you win G5.

AiMcL has spoken.

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Katie isn't LeBron
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Old 06-15-2021, 02:02 AM   #8341
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Speaking of which, it still blows my mind that Lebron got a 2-1 lead on the god damn Warriors sans Kyrie and Kevin Love in the finals. Holy hell playoff Lebron was a beast.
Yeah I remember watching that series and I was AMAZED at his performance.

Superhuman type stuff.

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Yeah you're right, KD will be joining the Bucks by the end of the 4th quarter.

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Old 06-15-2021, 02:27 AM   #8342
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All the remaining series sitting at 2-2 with the suns basically going on vacation for a week. Huge advantage for suns to be fresh as heck for west finals and hopefully the nba finals (with home court). Injuries to all these teams has this absolutely WIDE open.
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Old 06-15-2021, 02:45 AM   #8343
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Yeah you're right, KD will be joining the Bucks by the end of the 3rd quarter.

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All the remaining series sitting at 2-2 with the suns basically going on vacation for a week. Huge advantage for suns to be fresh as heck for west finals and hopefully the nba finals (with home court). Injuries to all these teams has this absolutely WIDE open.
These NBA Playoffs has truly become a war of attrition.

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Old 06-15-2021, 03:19 AM   #8344
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All the remaining series sitting at 2-2 with the suns basically going on vacation for a week. Huge advantage for suns to be fresh as heck for west finals and hopefully the nba finals (with home court). Injuries to all these teams has this absolutely WIDE open.
Yep, according to Championship odds that I can see, Bucks are faves with 20.5% implied chance of winning it all, and Philly are 6th faves with 11.2%. Unheard of to still have 6 teams within 10% of each other this late in the season.
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Old 06-15-2021, 05:17 AM   #8345
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Old 06-15-2021, 10:55 AM   #8346
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After a year+ of limited to no fans people are forgetting how much home court advantage equates to in the NBA playoffs. In an article I found it shows that Home Team's in the NBA playoffs historically get a 14% boost in expected win/loss percentage Vs a 10% boost in the regular season. Out of the four major sports in the US, Home field/court is most beneficial to have in basketball.

The Jazz had the best home court record in the NBA during the regular season and now have a full capacity of fans to pack their stadium. The Clippers still working under 50% capacity. I do think the Clippers seem like the better team but wins in Utah are going to be tough. Same goes towards Atlanta getting another win in Philly.
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Old 06-15-2021, 11:41 AM   #8347
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I disagree.

I have no stats or cites to back this up but I think both college and pro football are more valuable.
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Old 06-15-2021, 11:42 AM   #8348
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Agreed, he's Duncan with an MMA-fighting brother that likes to assault women accompanying the same bloodline.

He's a bad dude, but don't let the pudginess fool you.
Charges dropped, but yeah his brothers are quite menacing.


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Old 06-15-2021, 12:02 PM   #8349
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I like the under today, +-4 that’s a good line so I’m not gonna bet but no lock today just gambling
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Old 06-15-2021, 12:23 PM   #8350
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Steve Nash needs to pull a 2015 Cavaliers NBA Finals type strategy and slow the game down tremendously for the Nets to have a chance to win.

Make it a grit or grind affair where Durant not only scores but does EVERYTHING on the court (I'm talking DEFENSE, REBOUNDING, ASSISTS, HUSTLE PLAYS) and THEN and ONLY THEN can you win G5.

AiMcL has spoken.

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The Nets just need to get hot from 3's for a couple of games - the Bucks aren't a Warriors-type juggernaut. I think people are understating the amount of variance involved in what is now a best-of-3 series.

The better comparison is the 2015 ECF. Lebron was facing the Bud-coached Atlanta Hawks team that was almost exactly as good as the Bud-coached Bucks this season (+5.8 Net Rating, 4th in the league for the Hawks vs +5.7 Net Rating, 4th in the league for the Bucks). The Cavs were already down Kevin Love for the playoffs and Kyrie Irving was ineffective in Game 1 due to injuries and missed Game 2/3. Kyrie came back for Game 4, but wasn't really needed (he played 22 minutes and the Cavs won by 30 points). Lebron was also nursing a back injury that broke his jump shot the entire playoffs. The Cavs easily swept which is why people don't remember this series.
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