+1 to all of that. Rose is going to get a deal. And it won't be that bad finacially for the Knicks - they have f'ton of cap space anyway and ... it'll be fine from that pov. But it's a minutes commitment, is the point. So let's say, 2years-$25m? Now, who gets what guard minutes? Does NYK draft a PG at #15 in the lottery? Trade the Dallas picks to move up to #7?

Seadood can correct, but it seems that the fluidity of the offence is really down. Even Jokic/Murray p'n'r isn't so great if there's no movement at all from the other 3 players.

Oh yea. Now I see what you're getting at and I obv completely agree with you.

I do think the Knicks are a rare exception where they can actually benefit from 7-10 but the lineups THIBS is using is incredibly infuriating and makes no sense.

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OBI been extremely disappointing and I didn't love it on draft night. Tbf I wanted DENI who I dont think is faring any better. Haliburton the obvious pick in hindsight but he'd get like 6 minutes a game in between DNPs under THIBS so he dodged a bullet

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Yea but the baseball teams do it bc they literally get an extra year of not paying them. If anything the nba team has an incentive to play young guys from day 1 as the contract clock starts ticking from day 1

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Late to the analysis party on Lloyd Pierce getting got... my opinion is he's catching too much blame for mistakes that I lay at the feet of Schlenk.

I don't know how anyone could be expected to succeed with what Pierce had to work with in years 1 and 2, and then stuck him with a bunch of overpriced FA's that haven't worked out in year 3.

So I imagine the pressure is mounting for Schlenk. The biggest decision going forward is what to do with John Collins.

I think he's a nice young player, but definitely not a max candidate... especially for our team as it's currently constructed.

The worst thing we can do is mortgage our near-term future for a meaningless playoff appearance... which is exactly what we did this offseason. I'm scared that with the house of cards he's built, Schlenk CAN'T go to ownership and say we gotta trade Collins, so they max him and lock us into worse-than-mediocrity for 4+ years.

But as far as Schlenk is concerned, the biggest decision he made in his entire administration, which we all decried at the time and looks even worse in hindsight, is the Luka-for-Trae trade. He got that wrong, and ever since then I've tried to talk myself into the most optimistic outcome... but bottom line is he blew the biggest call of his tenure. Full stop.

Then he throws good money after bad, by bringing in guys to cover for Trae's structural weaknesses (Capela and Hunter). I actually like both Capela and Hunter, but the problem is your midget playmaker with defensive limitations will never be 80% as good as Dame Lillard, and even that would be Trae's 99th percentile outcome.

So if this is what you've built, now you CAN'T go to ownership and say we gotta get what we can for Collins while his value is highest, before we do something silly and crippling like max him.

Hawks really did get killed by injuries - can't really even analyze free agent pickups yet

Bogdonavic played like 25% of games so far
Dunn - 0%
Gallo - 60-70%
Rondo 50%

And Hunter maybe biggest hurt so far. He's now missed 50% of games, and he's a 2-way player who can score on his own.

Pretty confident they are at least .500 right now with more normal injury pattern. (Even now their PD is 0).

oh and ironically, Bogdonovic might play tonight.

Last night's game was a bit of an anomaly as Malone/Murray/Jokic said that they weren't bringing the doubles so they just fed Jokic and stuck MPJ/Jamal in the two spots where the doubles usually come from.

I think tchaz is right that they've looked clunky at times, but they tended to look that way last year when they were fielding skeleton squads. Their normal group of Murray-Harris-Barton-Millsap-Jokic has been the tits for nearly four years, but when one or more are out it usually devolves to ISOball, which Denver is good at but it looks ugly at times.

Denver's been a better team this year than last, but it hasn't shown up in their record because they lost the close games that they won last year. At no point after 30 games last year did they sport a PD >3, and they are at +4.5 this year with an average SOS. What's crazy is their ORating is 4 points better and would count as the GOAT offense, but only ranks 5th this year.

Two of these guys are all stars. I know the third doesn't belong right now because he started the season slow and the team hasn't won, but I know who I think will have the better career.

BTW Shai should have made it over at least one of them.

Pretty crazy how similar their numbers are though.

Net rating swings are what settles it for me. That and ofc their performances in the playoffs.

Booker - +7.0, +1.7 Net rating swing
Mitchell - +8.8, -1.9 Net rating swing
Murray - +8.4 on, +13.2 Net rating swing

Reflected in their RPM League Ranking

Jamal Murray - 16th
Donovan Mitchell - 29th
Devin Booker - 77th

RAPTOR/WAR rankings:

Jamal Murray 12th
Donovan Mitchell 23rd
Devin Booker 56th

I'm not even going here yet, but this **** is wild. NBA.com's DPOY Ladder... #5?

Knicks are in FOURTH place in the EAST baybee!

GO NY GO NY GO!

Tuesday Night Knicks tonight @ SPURS!

#CantWait
#TrustInQUICK
#FreeFrank

Spurs on a B2B, it would be SWELL for the Knicks to beat them!

Plus the Spurs played OVERTIME yesterday.

Thibs Toes gonna go HARD tonight!

McMillan said he won't have an opportunity before this week's All-Star break to make any significant changes. He wouldn't say what moves he plans to make but said he still believes in the team.


Apparently, Atlanta fans will have to wait nearly two weeks before Nate rolls out his back to the future 1985 offensive sets.

lololol

Flynn gifs

Cliffs on how Walt Jr = Malachi Flynn? I didn't read all of the back and forth.

FRANK has been FREED

Walt Jr said he wanted to be called Flynn on Breaking Bad.

GIDDDDDY UP!

Obi "What's Poppin?" Toppin HEADLINES field of DUNK CONTEST!

Here are the 2021 Slam Dunk Contest participants:

Player Team

Anfernee Simons Trail Blazers
Cassius Stanley Pacers
Obi Toppin Knicks

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BOO!! NO ZION!

OMG Frank STARTED!!!

Has Thibs Toes learned something!?!?

I just finished off a Gyro w Pita Deluxe. I’m talking 5 pieces of delectable gyro, pita, greek salad, fries, and tzatziki!

**** this Subway commercial with Jayson Tatum and Draymond Green.

The bacon at Subway DOES NOT look like it does in the commercial.

I call shenanigans!

anatta this one's for you: