Yeah I think the Cavs/Raps wasn't as close as I remembered it. I guess it "could have" been close if the Raps came through in games 1 and/or 3. But that could have is way less than 50/50 vs Lebron obv.
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Originally Posted by Banzai-
Eh, you guys are def dismissing the Raptors loss as "LeBron owns them" too easily. They took like 6 to beat the Wizards too? Just not a good team in the post season. Kawhi obv a huge upgrade but they've got a long way to go imo. Lol regular season. Agreed with Seadood that Boston are overrated too tho, think the East is just real bad this year and open to the possibility of a Philly or Bucks (or even my Pacers! :P) getting through
I don't understand the logic of the Celtics being overrated but the Raps also having a long way to go. I think all of the "Kawhi is obv a huge upgrade" sentiments are still massively underrating how good Kawhi is when healthy.
I agree with lol regular season. I think the Raps will legitimately be the best team in the regular season (best record and best point differential) but they're obv not the favorites in the playoffs. They should probably be #4 right now behind the Warriors, Rockets and Celtics. I'd put them as #2 if I knew we were getting 16-17 Kawhi but that's probably less likely than not. If it happens, why don't we like them in the playoffs exactly? Their depth isn't as valuable as in the regular season, but the three main reasons they didn't do well in the playoffs were coaching, not having a guy like Kawhi, and losing to Lebron over and over.
I think Raps +400 to win the east is ridiculous value considering the 76ers are +400 and the Celtics are -105. If the reason you don't believe in the Raptors is because you don't think Kawhi will be peak Kawhi, I understand that. But if you don't think they have an insanely high ceiling, I respectfully disagree.