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04-25-2019 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
The lack of effort was more of a 1st half thing. They weren't playing with any intensity on D, Clipps could've easily been up 15+ at half if they made more open 3's.

Only shooting 32% on open 3's in this series.

Think GS blows them out tmrw but that is gonna be a quick turnaround for gm 1.

Also agree that Clipps got more calls 2nd half last night, had a "we need a game on Friday" feel to it.
I'm not one to complain about refs as I am happy in the understanding that sometime you get the calls, sometimes you don't and it all works out in the end... but the mind blowing one was the time out awarded to the Clippers when Harrell was on the floor instead of it being a jump ball. It wasn't close to anything but a jump ball.

In the end it didn't matter as they turned the ball over straight away, but it was such a weird call.

Having said all that we treat the refs like ****, so we probably don't deserve to get a lot of calls.
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04-25-2019 , 07:16 PM
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04-25-2019 , 07:18 PM
Rockets going to Oakland to wait.

Trying their best to jinx the Warriors.
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04-25-2019 , 07:20 PM
They really don't have much choice with the game being on sunday at 12:30, but if LAC somehow wins gm 6, the Rockets starting 5 should attend game 7.

That would be some WWE genius ****
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04-25-2019 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
I like Den +3, they’ve shown a lot of heart and I think it’ll be at least close for them because it’s hard for SAS to pull away with their math issues.
Agree, not sure how many more adjustments Pop has in him. This team is so limited.
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04-25-2019 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
They really don't have much choice with the game being on sunday at 12:30, but if LAC somehow wins gm 6, the Rockets starting 5 should attend game 7.

That would be some WWE genius ****
with the 16 cavs
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04-25-2019 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by fidstar-poker
Rockets going to Oakland to wait.

Trying their best to jinx the Warriors.
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Not that the Clippers need any motivational fuel — they’re the most passionate team in the entire playoff landscape — but if they were to get back to Oakland for Game 7 and win the series, they’d have a little something on the Rockets. Oh, the intrigue.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/warriors...d-13796145.php

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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
They really don't have much choice with the game being on sunday at 12:30, but if LAC somehow wins gm 6, the Rockets starting 5 should attend game 7.

That would be some WWE genius ****
Oh man that would be awesome.

Clippers gonna beat the Rockets too. Don't ever underestimate the heart of Sweet Lou.

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Agree, not sure how many more adjustments Pop has in him. This team is so limited.
There is no limit to POP MAGIC.
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04-25-2019 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
I'm just not buying this. I think there are several guys who, given the opportunity, are going to be just as if not more dangerous when given the opportunity to pull-up from not-so-efficient ranges or take shots floaters and shots at the rim despite being statistically the lowest of all high-volume players from both zones.

Also I'm not buying how he has no help. It's not like there aren't other guys who can't take shots nor are his passing lanes that difficult.. Sure his team struggled with shooting for portions of the season, but he's taking SOOOO many worse shots even though relatively easy passes are open.

If you put Devin Booker, Lou Williams, Jamal Murray, Monte Morris, hell even Malik Beasley in that role I think the results are similar. DM is a much better defender than all of those guys, but I also wonder how much better the latter would look if they had the luxury of playing with the best rim-protector in the game and can therefore never be worried about blow-bys.

I mean take Malik Beasley and give him a green light to pull-up from anywhere or force shots to the rim. How high would his USG% have to be before their EFG's factoring the turnover difference converge. And don't get me started on DM's ability to draw fouls, a lot of that imo is due to the push he's gotten as a star.

not really trying to paint mitchell as a stealth hyper efficient player completely hamstrung by the jazz. that said there being other guys on the jazz to take shots is wat to me. people like to play up ingles and rubio's offensive contributions. and like they are fine, but they have limited impact offensively. both make smart plays, but pretty much only take easy shots. will look for the link but someone on twitter was looking at shot quality/difficulty ratings and complaining about how ingles shoots too sparingly and only takes easy shots. he played this way before mitchell got there. mitchell is getting dumped for good reason, but ingles put up a smooth 43% ts on 13% usg in the rox series. agree that mitchell is lacking as a playmaker



i think lou williams would look better than mitchell does playing for the jazz, but not a lot better and i don't think he would look "good". granted his ridic free throw rate would help him a lot, but as is he is not incredibly efficient or something. similar thoughts wrt booker though i think he would look better than either (offensively)


as for nuggs players, think you are just full on homering. jamal murray and donovan mitchell had pretty similar scoring efficiency this season. murray also is pretty weak off the dribble so he would look terrible on the jazz imo (i like murray fwiw). you're talking about increasing the usg of beasley/morris by more than 50% (closer to 100%). maybe they can do that and still be somewhat efficient, but probably not? most players cannot. most players can't even be average. if they can malone is ****ing up b/c denver seems to have a big hole wrt reliable perimeter creation. like i saw they were running an inverted 1-5 pnr. that's neat and speaks to jokic's skills, but also speaks to the skills of the ball handlers


edit: i'd be pretty interested to see some stats on murray's shot quality on his good nights vs bad nights. seems he is a bit like klay in that he is make or miss in his own right a lot

Last edited by tarheeljks; 04-25-2019 at 08:18 PM.
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04-25-2019 , 08:48 PM
I got POP MAGIC getting to a game 7.

Then Jokic will be tested to the maximum.
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04-25-2019 , 09:02 PM
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Gregg Popovich was comfortable and relaxed at his pregame session with reporters before Game 6. He gave long answers to several questions and even cracked that he had something up his sleeve for tonight when asked about if he had done research on who Bobby Fischer is.
Popovich def. best chess playing coach ITL ainec.

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An awkward exchange unfolded at Warriors practice Friday. Head coach Steve Kerr began addressing reporters near the court in the team's downtown Oakland practice facility, but Kerr quickly asked a Warriors PR official if the music thumping in the facility could be turned down so he could hear reporters' questions better and so reporters could hear his answers better. The Warriors PR official replied that the music was loud because forward Draymond Green, who was shooting on a nearby court, wanted it that way. (The Warriors PR official moved toward the volume switch and Green shouted to keep the music at the same level.) In the end, the music stayed at the same volume. A reporter then jokingly asked Kerr who was in charge. "Not me, obviously," he said. After the media session ended, Kerr told reporters, "Enjoy the music."
Draymond is such a baby back *****.
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04-25-2019 , 10:01 PM
jokic is pretty good. why does plumlee play? also why does bertans not play?
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04-25-2019 , 10:08 PM
gg nuggets
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04-25-2019 , 10:12 PM
When dood said Beasley/Morris could do what Mitchell does on the Jazz, I figured they were gonna have a long night.
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04-25-2019 , 10:19 PM
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If you seek revenge, dig two graves.
If you have to dig graves seek revenge
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04-25-2019 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
When dood said Beasley/Morris could do what Mitchell does on the Jazz, I figured they were gonna have a long night.
Miss shots they both did pretty well. Thought they let SAS get away with a ton of contact all game. Nugs should crush game 7.
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04-25-2019 , 10:34 PM
Yeah, easy to say now but it is very rare for a team as young as the Nuggs to be a 2 seed their 1st time in the playoffs and expected to win rd 1. Usually you get a few series under your belt as a lower seed.

Closing out SA on the road their 1st time in the playoffs would've been a tall task.
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04-25-2019 , 11:33 PM
Think they cruise in game 7 tbh
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04-26-2019 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
Think they cruise in game 7 tbh
That game was 1 part MOML as SAS shot 20/30 on midrange 2's while Denver was 6/24 from 3, 1 part SAS just being hard to win, and 1 part serious home-cooking in what could be Popp's last game and Duncan's birthday.

Malone said they sent the tape on Poetl's dirty screens from the first four games and were told they were fouls, then Jacob gets away with two more, one of them injuring Jamal. Doubt he's allowed to touch anyone next game and I wouldn't be surprised to see him shoot 10 FTs.

I think the only way they lose is if Denver's role-players completely choke AND Spurs run pretty good from deep.

Also, Joker is a ****ing star. I think the Spurs purposely didn't bring the double, and he puts up 43-12-9-2-1 with 2 turnovers on 30 shots (only 4 FTAs, of course). In a closeout game, his first taste of the playoffs, he puts up a performance like that.
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04-26-2019 , 02:17 AM
Jacob Poetltl has now put his knee into Jamal twice and Gary Harris once, all three injuring them. The last one looks really dirty to me.. On first glance I thought Joker pushed him into Jamal, but the body doesn't do those things when pushed, especially when being pushed toward your right.



I know culture yadda yadda, but the Spurs are a low-key scumbag organization with their questionable stadium malfunctions, LMA undercutting superstars (and Ingram), and of course Bowen and Horry.

Jamal couldn't walk after the game.. If he misses time or is hampered because of that it's going to really suck.
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04-26-2019 , 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
Miss shots they both did pretty well. Thought they let SAS get away with a ton of contact all game. Nugs should crush game 7.
Beasley and Morris combined for 6/4/3.. COMBINED. And Beasley OR Morris could slot into the Jazz instead of Mitchell and they wouldn't see any decline? Dood, come on.
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04-26-2019 , 03:21 AM
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Beasley and Morris combined for 6/4/3.. COMBINED. And Beasley OR Morris could slot into the Jazz instead of Mitchell and they wouldn't see any decline? Dood, come on.
3/12 3ast/0to is a good bit better than 4/22 1ast/5to. Or let me guess, we should give credit to DM for his resolve and taking step-back 3's when you can't hit the broadside in a close game. And unlike Mitchell they are both actually efficient despite taking a large percentage of their shots from the inefficient areas that defenses give Donovan.

Mitchell gets so much credit simply for taking shots that the defense gives them because they are bad shots.
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04-26-2019 , 03:34 AM

So good
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04-26-2019 , 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
as for nuggs players, think you are just full on homering. jamal murray and donovan mitchell had pretty similar scoring efficiency this season. murray also is pretty weak off the dribble so he would look terrible on the jazz imo (i like murray fwiw). you're talking about increasing the usg of beasley/morris by more than 50% (closer to 100%). maybe they can do that and still be somewhat efficient, but probably not? most players cannot. most players can't even be average. if they can malone is ****ing up b/c denver seems to have a big hole wrt reliable perimeter creation. like i saw they were running an inverted 1-5 pnr. that's neat and speaks to jokic's skills, but also speaks to the skills of the ball handlers

edit: i'd be pretty interested to see some stats on murray's shot quality on his good nights vs bad nights. seems he is a bit like klay in that he is make or miss in his own right a lot
Murray's efficiency this year wasn't great, but we're talking about offensive efficiency overall, which includes turnovers. Going back to college Murray has had two good efficiency years whereas DM has had none. DM is definitely better at ball-handling and getting to the rim, but as is the case for say him and Malik Beasley, what if instead of getting to the rim and being the least efficient player at it like Donovan, they simply pulled up from 3 every time? Or pulled up from 2 where they were both elite? Sure the EFG% would be lower, but if they are turning it over far less would it make a difference?

My point wasn't to say my guys are better, it's more to say that measuring the greatness or even goodness of DM is hard because he gets (imo) a little too much credit for simply taking thirstier shots than he should given his abilities, and if you take players who are actually good at the "bad shots" that DM takes, then there might not be a difference in how efficient they can make an offense.

For example yes Monte Morris isn't a prolific scorer, but he's one of the very best with the floater and money from midrange whilst being a 40+ C&S guy.. More importantly he has a historically high A/TO rate going back to college. If they red-line a player like him and just have him take floaters or pull-ups when Rudy is covered, does the dip in EFG but never turning the ball over even things out? What if they take a guy like Malik and rather than have him run PnR just run DHOs and take thirsty 3's or drive to the hoop where he finished at an elite rate?

We'll never know, but I still think DM gets a lot of credit for doing the things that other guys simply aren't allowed to. We all want to give credit to high usage/low efficiency guys, but in reality they just don't win big across any era.
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04-26-2019 , 04:10 AM
Reading stuff about how Magic quit because there was an email going around the Lakers front office about how much Magic sucked at his job and someone 'accidentally' BCC'd it to Magic.

Also, Jeanie and Linda Rambis (Kurt's wife, apparently Jeanie's bff and thus the 2nd most important decision maker in the Lakers org) send emails to each other back and forth ripping on people. And also they call Steve Ballmer "Ballz". lol

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Today, on the Mason and Ireland Show on ESPN 710 AM, co-host Steve Mason shed some light and gave the following statement about Linda Rambis’ influence within the Lakers organization:

“I’m glad somebody finally wrote (about Linda Rambis), because I never felt comfortable just saying Linda Rambis’ name. But Jeanie and Linda are together running the Lakers. They are running the Lakers. They are joined at the hip. That is Jeanie’s main advisor, lead advisor, director of special operations or whatever the heck it is. But she and Jeanie are operating in tandem.”

Co-host, John Ireland, the voice of the Los Angeles Lakers, then offered his observation:

“I will say this: I think Jeanie trusts Linda more than any other person there. I think she trusts Kurt (Rambis). I think Kurt is going to be involved in whatever new hire…he gets involved.”

Mason and Ireland later joked that Linda Rambis is to Jeanie Buss what HBO’s Game of Thrones’ Tyrion Lannister is to Daenerys Targaryen: Rambis is Jeanie’s “Hand of the Queen.”
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It is now clear that Linda Rambis and her husband Kurt Rambis, a Showtime-era Laker great, have thrown their support behind Pelinka and will heavily influence the Lakers decision-making process moving forward.

The dust is starting to settle and we can now see the current Lakers power structure: Jeanie Buss, Linda Rambis, Kurt Rambis, and Rob Pelinka.
https://lakeshowlife.com/2019/04/16/...s-jeanie-buss/


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04-26-2019 , 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by markksman
If you have to dig graves seek revenge
I lol'd.

+1000 TZ Points

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Originally Posted by Seadood228
Jacob Poetltl has now put his knee into Jamal twice and Gary Harris once, all three injuring them. The last one looks really dirty to me.. On first glance I thought Joker pushed him into Jamal, but the body doesn't do those things when pushed, especially when being pushed toward your right.



I know culture yadda yadda, but the Spurs are a low-key scumbag organization with their questionable stadium malfunctions, LMA undercutting superstars (and Ingram), and of course Bowen and Horry.

Jamal couldn't walk after the game.. If he misses time or is hampered because of that it's going to really suck.
I'm completely unbiased here and I can say with a pretty good amount of certainty that this play looks dirty.

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So good
+2000 TZ Points
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