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10-24-2017 , 01:32 PM
Bledsoe is also a bitchmade slanker. With weak knees. Said he was at the barbershop lol. What a ****boy.
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10-24-2017 , 01:36 PM
Phoenix seems to have a lot of bitchmade slankers want to leave their franchise and thrive elsewhere.
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10-24-2017 , 01:40 PM
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Phoenix seems to have a lot of bitchmade slankers want to leave their franchise and thrive elsewhere.
McDonough must have a good agent/pr person because he is a homeless man's hinkie. He has done a terrible job yet just got a contract extension.
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10-24-2017 , 01:40 PM
"Cap space to sign a big free agent in the offseason" is simply not a thing that has any value.

Star players have complete control of where they play. If a top player wants to go play with Giannis it will make no difference at all whether they have Brogdon or Bledsoe's salary on the books. The NBA has a soft cap that is extreme easy to manipulate. There simply exists no reality where Bledsoe's salary prevents them from adding a star player. In fact his presence probably helps it much moreso than Brogdan's since NBA players are all friends and no one probably has any clue who Brogdon is.

I mean do you guys ever actually pay attention to how the NBA works? Or is it just sit around sorting by rpm, jacking it to tpa charts, and pretending a players contract is super important to their value?

This thread is a consistent embarassment.

Last edited by Wooders0n; 10-24-2017 at 01:43 PM. Reason: 90ish
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10-24-2017 , 01:40 PM
Why do you guys even respond to him he is clueless.

What is even the argument against Brogdon being super sweet and a better fit for like every contending team than Bledsoe and that's ignoring contract
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10-24-2017 , 01:43 PM
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Phoenix seems to have a lot of bitchmade slankers want to leave their franchise and thrive elsewhere.
Not really, those aren't the slankers. **** ownership likes to trade or let the good players walk. Should've gotten rid of Eric's punk ass instead of Isaiah or Goran.
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10-24-2017 , 01:47 PM
Bledsoe is a wayyyyyy worse Westbrook that caps your team and doesn't synergize well with skilled players.

Brogdon is a 6'5 7' wingspan good shooting good IQ ball handler who can score well, is literally 10% the price and if we want to incomprehensibly ignore that he's still way better than Bledsoe for like every good basketball team
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10-24-2017 , 01:48 PM
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While Klay would be the perfect fit with Giannis he is never going to go to Milwaukee.

I suggested a Noel/Covington to Milwaukee and Jabari to a third team last year and Bucks fans laughed at me. I can't imagine how awesome a Brogdon/Middleton/Covington/Giannis/Noel lineup would be.

They are now stuck with damaged goods. They have to find a way to flip Jabari for shooting. He is a net negative for the Bucks.



He was actually right. Good franchises let good opportunities come to them. Bad franchises panic and overpay for the opportunity to get Eric f'n Bledsoe. That guy doesn't move the needle at all. He's actually a terrible fit with Giannis since he can't shoot and any time the ball is in his hands it will take it out of Giannis's.

If the Bucks would have just held tight and not signed Delly, Teletovic, Plumlee they would have the best outlook of any team in the NBA.
They just gave 40/4 to everybody like 10m is nothing in the cap. Unfortunately, there's no shooting on the Market the Warriors and Rockets are the only team with enough 3 pts skills

They have time though, all those terrible contracts expire exactly 1 year before Giannis.

When Giannis enters his prime, they can have 22m locked for Giannis, Thon extension with a ridiculously low cap hold, and like 100m cap to spend on free agents. That's like 2 max players + 1 very good role player, + all the exception available to fill the roster

Who are the top target in 2020 aside from Gobert ?

Gobert + Giannis is probably GG league anyway
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10-24-2017 , 01:55 PM
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Bledsoe is also a bitchmade slanker. With weak knees. Said he was at the barbershop lol. What a ****boy.
He doesn't play defense either.
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10-24-2017 , 01:57 PM
With THAY on this one.
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10-24-2017 , 01:57 PM
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They just gave 40/4 to everybody like 10m is nothing in the cap. Unfortunately, there's no shooting on the Market the Warriors and Rockets are the only team with enough 3 pts skills

They have time though, all those terrible contracts expire exactly 1 year before Giannis.

When Giannis enters his prime, they can have 22m locked for Giannis, Thon extension with a ridiculously low cap hold, and like 100m cap to spend on free agents. That's like 2 max players + 1 very good role player, + all the exception available to fill the roster

Who are the top target in 2020 aside from Gobert ?

Gobert + Giannis is probably GG league anyway
This is pretty frightening.
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10-24-2017 , 01:59 PM
Knicks should be in for Bledsoe. Give them a protected first and something
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10-24-2017 , 01:59 PM
If you want to argue that Brogdon>Bledsoe that's fine. Id never waste my time discussing that but its a fair pov. But if you think Bledsoe is better but wouldnt trade for him bc of contracts youre a clueless idiot.
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10-24-2017 , 02:03 PM
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McDonough must have a good agent/pr person because he is a homeless man's hinkie. He has done a terrible job yet just got a contract extension.
McDonough has made some big mistakes, but

1. He didn’t draft Okafor over Staps
2. He traded poo for Bledsoe and won 48 games a few years ago (which I think was Hinkie’s win total over three years, while he was “building” the current Sixers roster that might get the 8 seed in the East for a couple years before Embiid dies of natural causes)
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10-24-2017 , 02:07 PM
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Bledsoe is a wayyyyyy worse Westbrook that caps your team and doesn't synergize well with skilled players.

Brogdon is a 6'5 7' wingspan good shooting good IQ ball handler who can score well, is literally 10% the price and if we want to incomprehensibly ignore that he's still way better than Bledsoe for like every good basketball team
Agree except the capping part. Your team floor is ldo a billion times lower, but I could see EG as a player who's not going to take a ton of possessions from an offense good or bad like Westbrook. With that said, I hate the fit with Giannis unless he's primarily terrorizing benches.

I want to see Bled on a different team partially because I'm not sure what type of player he can be. He was very good two years ago, and theoretically he should be better now.
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10-24-2017 , 02:08 PM
Mcdonough has been awesome except two huge mistakes. Knight deal and chandler signing.

Len is a bust, but that draft sucks ass.

He's made some awesome trades.

The whole ****ing problem is sarver. Suns will always be LOL til he's gonem
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10-24-2017 , 02:18 PM
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Teams are being valued >2 billion dollars. Player salaries and the luxury tax are nothing. Every owner would snap at the chance to pay luxury tax on a legit roster that will see the value of his franchise skyrocket.
Past history suggests that this is not the case.
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10-24-2017 , 02:26 PM
Sarver SUUUUUCKS, bad. don't forget he was the guy blaming all the losses on "millennial culture"
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10-24-2017 , 02:53 PM
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McDonough has made some big mistakes, but

1. He didn’t draft Okafor over Staps
2. He traded poo for Bledsoe and won 48 games a few years ago (which I think was Hinkie’s win total over three years, while he was “building” the current Sixers roster that might get the 8 seed in the East for a couple years before Embiid dies of natural causes)
LOL, this is your argument of McDonough over Hinkie. What a long list of advantages he has over Hinkie. The fact he wasn't drafting 3rd overall in what was considered a 3 player draft. People love revisionist history; most scouts/GMs had Okafor over Staps. And your second point is the Suns had a fluke season which cost them lottery balls and a chance at a legit talent which is why they are in the position they are in today.
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10-24-2017 , 02:55 PM
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Sarver SUUUUUCKS, bad. don't forget he was the guy blaming all the losses on "millennial culture"
Seems like a fitting article, just released, on some of the Suns' issues.
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10-24-2017 , 03:07 PM
The Knight and IT trades were bad at the time and look worse now for McDonough.
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10-24-2017 , 03:08 PM
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Mcdonough has been awesome except two huge mistakes. Knight deal and chandler signing.

Len is a bust, but that draft sucks ass.

He's made some awesome trades.

The whole ****ing problem is sarver. Suns will always be LOL til he's gonem
Under utilization of IT2, questionable returns for Dragic. This suns team was on the cusp of a major breakthrough only a few seasons ago..
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10-24-2017 , 03:19 PM
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Brogdan is a no one.
another very bad take. par for the course for you. the guy is on a rookie contract and is 6'5 with a 6'7 wingspan who shoots 40% from three with an AST:TO ratio of like 2.5. keep it up bud.

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Teams are being valued >2 billion dollars. Player salaries and the luxury tax are nothing. Every owner would snap at the chance to pay luxury tax on a legit roster that will see the value of his franchise skyrocket.
another very bad, wrong statement. i would encourage you to read up on the revenue sharing agreement where half of teams are still losing money after getting payments.

the teams that are getting valued for 2B are in top 5 markets (LA, HOU). you ignore the Hawks sale recently for 850 that went to a group over an individual. not everyone is as liquid as Ballmer, especially if they are hemhorraging money even before paying luxury tax.

in the real world, especially a basketball busto city like milwaukee, adhering to the cap with a sharp GM is an absolute must. for you to go arguing for brogdon being a nobody and saying you would instantly pay up for bledsoe because lol unlimited money more or less makes you the james dolan donk of this thread.
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10-24-2017 , 03:25 PM
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@Clayton, that's why I'd be all in on Denver going after Bledsoe at the cost of say Faried/Arthur/Mudiay/2018 protected first. It would allow Denver to get to max space in 2018 and 2019 quite easily, and would improve their already improved team by a ton of wins because their PGs are so young and raw.

Milwaukee should do the same imo, try to get off long-term deals in an effort to improve their ability to sign free agents when Giannis collecting MVPs. Bledsoe rn is sort of a best of both worlds, improving them both in the short term while giving them the ability to get even better in the future.

I look at acquiring Bledsoe as more of a delayed salary dump that makes you better + elevating your team's profile in the short term.
i agree, i like denver a lot for bledsoe.

looking at milwaukee's contracts as the 2 year salary dump window can be okay, but i'm not a huge fan of it. black swan events happen and there could be a great opportunity to land a player 6 months from now or 1 year from now if your books are clean enough. just look at the opportunities that OKC got this offseason.

eventually there is gonna be some sharp top 10 player who realizes that pairing with up giannis is gonna be like the lebron consecutive finals appearances streak of the next decade. gotta put yourself in the best financial position to get that player.
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10-24-2017 , 03:35 PM
Woj says the Suns want a "young player with significant talent". Good luck with that.
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