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01-27-2018 , 04:30 PM
Brow on the other hand, he is a cyborg, a picture of perfect health, a machine.

Playing him 36 mins a game totally makes sense. Basically indestructible.
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01-27-2018 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
any starter that gets literally no days off and logs 36 mpg is being overplayed, yes. especially if that player is a big man.

random rest days on back to backs and ~32 mpg is clearly a lot sharper if your objective is for your dudes to not get hurt and prep yourself better for a playoff run.
that seems completely arbitrary, obviously you'd prefer to give your players as much rest as possible, otoh the pelicans aren't exactly the warriors, maximizing your chances to make the playoffs seems like the play here.
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01-27-2018 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
to me the more upsetting thing is that he never got a rest day.
lol @ this

Most of the days since the start of the season have been off days.

If Boogie had sat out one of the 48 games then he wouldn't be overplayed? What if the 'Cans schedule had only had 47 games to this point? Or what if it had 49 games and he sat out one of them?
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01-27-2018 , 05:07 PM
Also, with Ricky Rubio's game winner last night, Rubio is now 8/11 from the field, 4/4 from 3, and 11/12 from the line in Clutch time.
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01-27-2018 , 05:24 PM
Pretty sure the Jazz would gladly send him back to the wolves for nothing
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01-27-2018 , 05:34 PM
Unless you have access to any actual data regarding boogie's level of fatigue (cortisol levels, reaction times, current nagging injuries, subjective 'how you feeling?' type questionnaire, etc etc), then you are talking completely out of your ass.

The reason dmc got hurt is he's 7', 270+ lbs, and he came flying in wildly for an offensive rebound and planted oddly on his left foot.
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01-27-2018 , 05:36 PM
Boogie gets extra rest from whining to the refs and taking plays off on defense.
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01-27-2018 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
lol @ this

Most of the days since the start of the season have been off days.

If Boogie had sat out one of the 48 games then he wouldn't be overplayed? What if the 'Cans schedule had only had 47 games to this point? Or what if it had 49 games and he sat out one of them?
another reference point would be LMA, playing for one of the sharpest teams on rest management.

Spurs 51 total games, LMA has played 48. And averaging 34 MPG.

I think something in this ballpark is more efficient than starting 100% of games and playing 36 minutes.

It's a minor but important distinction and ones that sharper teams have been paying attention to for a while.

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Originally Posted by kidcolin
Unless you have access to any actual data regarding boogie's level of fatigue (cortisol levels, reaction times, current nagging injuries, subjective 'how you feeling?' type questionnaire, etc etc), then you are talking completely out of your ass.
broad data suggests that there is skill when it comes to injury luck. sharp teams are investing large sums of money toward top notch medical teams and medical analytics.

teams like the pelicans and wolves are going to be forever behind the curve as long as their current management is in place, and when all their starters are eventually injury-riddled corpses (see: joakim noah, luol deng, derrick rose) i will be quick to point out the absurdity in people's argument that number of minutes and rest days somehow don't matter.
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01-27-2018 , 06:24 PM
Pretty sure boog still gets a max
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01-27-2018 , 06:25 PM
makes me wonder what a betting market on jrue getting injured this regular season looks like. would be amazed if he somehow went through the entire season intact. 37 MPG, played 100% of games and will be carrying the team even more without boogie.
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01-27-2018 , 06:25 PM
I agree in general, but saying something like “no games off 36mpg = Achilles tear, 34mpg and a game off = woulda been totally fine" is, again, talking wholely out your ass.

BTW, re: spurs. How's Kiwi doing?
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01-27-2018 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
I agree in general, but saying something like “no games off 36mpg = Achilles tear, 34mpg and a game off = woulda been totally fine" is, again, talking wholely out your ass.
strawman. i am saying

1) 36mpg and no days off = not remotely surprised he got injured achilles
2) 34 mpg and a game off = lower chance of injury (non quantifiable because insane amt of variance)

as far as whats optimal i have no idea but i would tend to look at similar players on sharper medical teams. LMA was a decent reference point.

interestingly enough, the heat are regarded as one of the sharpest teams and they are super injured this year. lolvariance.

and i have no idea whats up with kawhi cuz nobody seems to.
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01-27-2018 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
strawman. i am saying

1) 36mpg and no days off = not remotely surprised he got injured achilles
2) 34 mpg and a game off = lower chance of injury (non quantifiable because insane amt of variance)

as far as whats optimal i have no idea but i would tend to look at similar players on sharper medical teams. LMA was a decent reference point.

interestingly enough, the heat are regarded as one of the sharpest teams and they are super injured this year. lolvariance.

and i have no idea whats up with kawhi cuz nobody seems to.
we all agree 2) is "better", we all agree you have no idea how to quantify it
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01-27-2018 , 06:36 PM
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Gilbert wants to sell the Cavs
no effin way. you must not know anything about gilbert to think this is remotely possible.
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01-27-2018 , 06:37 PM
Examining DeMarcus Cousins Achilles Tear


Elton Brand declined from 27yo 20.5ppg 58.1%TS to 29yo 13.8ppg 48.4%TS
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01-27-2018 , 06:39 PM
I declare this thread a safe space from all future Elton Brand references, thanks.
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01-27-2018 , 06:41 PM
34mpg = lower chance only so far as each minute on the court is a chance at a bad step, assuming his fatigue is properly monitored.
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01-27-2018 , 06:58 PM
Didn't the Pels go to OT in like 4 of their last whatever? Not that it's the reason for the injury.
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01-27-2018 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
another reference point would be LMA, playing for one of the sharpest teams on rest management.

Spurs 51 total games, LMA has played 48. And averaging 34 MPG.

I think something in this ballpark is more efficient than starting 100% of games and playing 36 minutes.
They've both played 48 games since October 18th! How do LMA's tendons know that the schedule maker had them down for 51 at this point?
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01-27-2018 , 07:30 PM
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34mpg = lower chance only so far as each minute on the court is a chance at a bad step, assuming his fatigue is properly monitored.
This imo.

In strat-o-matic when you roll triple 6s you suffer an injury and have to roll for the dudes on the court. Being on the court more means facing more die rolls that can result in triple 6s.
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01-27-2018 , 07:56 PM
Andre Roberson hurt. Doesn't look good.


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01-27-2018 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by John Candy
Pretty sure boog still gets a max
Can Pelicans offer an extra year vs anyone else? If so that could change few things.
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01-27-2018 , 08:07 PM
rough year for dpoy candidates. whiteside leading in DRPM. just saying
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01-27-2018 , 08:10 PM


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01-27-2018 , 08:13 PM
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rough year for dpoy candidates. whiteside leading in DRPM. just saying
Haralabob tweeted the other day something like "When you view Dwight playing defense from the perspective of he's trying really hard to appear like he's trying hard on defense you'll never unsee it" and it's so hilariously on point
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