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03-21-2018 , 04:37 AM
HARDEN

Can't wait for the 30/30 about how OKC managed to lose harden and KD in their prime to end up with the worse player by far of the 3
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03-21-2018 , 08:02 AM
Dang, Lonzo is a 46% free throw shooter?
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03-21-2018 , 09:58 AM
It's time to play... GUESS THAT PERCENTAGE!

In all of March (363 min, 10 gms), here are Lonzo's FG%, FT%, and 3P%... but which one is which?!

A) 27.3%
B) 30.4%
C) 33.6%

Answer:

Spoiler:



For real:

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Fine, seriously, it's:

Spoiler:

FG: 33.6%
3P: 30.4%
FT: 27.3%

Loooooooooollllllllll

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamel...421/lonzo-ball

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03-21-2018 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by C-Viggity
In the spirit of Seadood's nugs crashing and burning again tho, I will say something in favor of the NUGS

Dunc'd on did a '2020 Speculation' thing which was largely dumb but kind of interesting, esp when they looked in to the WCF playoff picture and kinda dismissed or gave little airtime to Denver

As much as I hate on Denver, it seems silly to not have them in the Top 5 or at least a contendor in the West outlook for the year 2020

GSW
Houston
whatever tier
San Antonio (assuming Kawhi)
OKC
Portland
Denver
Utah
NO

Don't see a ton separating the potential for that next tier honestly. Denver probably has a better case than some being locked in to value with some cap flexibility. I do think Jokic is probably more of a playoff liability compared to his reg season value, but GH/Murray could easily get argued the opposite.

If you all had to stack rank the outcome of the 2020 Western Conference playoffs, how would you land?
Thought it was really weird how Duncan had the Lakers in the top 6 in the West or something because they might land some big free agents.
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03-21-2018 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by patron
It's time to play... GUESS THAT PERCENTAGE!

In all of March (363 min, 10 gms), here are Lonzo's FG%, FT%, and 3P%... but which one is which?!

A) 27.3%
B) 30.4%
C) 33.6%

Answer:

Spoiler:



For real:

Spoiler:



Fine, seriously, it's:

Spoiler:

FG: 33.6%
3P: 30.4%
FT: 27.3%

Loooooooooollllllllll

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamel...421/lonzo-ball

His best shooting game in his last 5 games is 27%. That's his best one...
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03-21-2018 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ElEasily
Thought it was really weird how Duncan had the Lakers in the top 6 in the West or something because they might land some big free agents.


This seems likely to happen and they were trying to predict the future.
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03-21-2018 , 12:16 PM
Lakers might be top 6 even if they don't land any big free agents! 😲

Top 6 in 2020 with big FA's sounds more like underrating them rather than overrating them.
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03-21-2018 , 12:20 PM
Lonzo's positive impacts have been pretty incredible considering those percentages and the fact that he's a 20 year old PG
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03-21-2018 , 12:25 PM
Yeah that's why I have them third. As a resident who attends both Clipper/Laker games and has to work around other Socalers, there just isn't any comparison to being a Laker imo.

They just do things differently here, and its really stark. For example their production-value during games. You go to other arenas and their announcer is shouting and doing things to get the crowd hyped, but the Laker's announcer is more subdued, classy even... yet the crowd gets pretty nuts regardless. It's like the Lakers org knows their history speaks for itself and therefore doesn't have to try and do anything that comes off as desperate in order to attract fans.
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03-21-2018 , 12:34 PM
Once saw Kobe drop 50 in a suite with NORM. Doesn't get much more Lakersss.gif than that
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03-21-2018 , 12:39 PM
i don't think the core of the lakers is all that strong. lonzo/randle core could vy for the playoffs but i don't see it flirting w/hca. if they add big FAs then yes ofc, but those are the type of players that make any team playoff caliber. top 6 pending FA acquisitions seems fine. think signing randle to a big deal is very likely to be bad. should dangle him in a trade for one of said acquisitions
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03-21-2018 , 12:42 PM
i'll take the under on 3rd in 2020 for the Lakers. unless they prove they can poach top level FAs, I think their talent level is quite mediocre for the west. other teams have better young cores like Utah.
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03-21-2018 , 12:46 PM
Is Utah's core young? They have a lot of contributions from guys who are either FA's in the next couple years (Neto/Udoh/Oneal/Favors/Rubio/Exum) or guys who are older (Ingles). Mitchell is young and maybe Rudy has another gear, but the latter is approaching that peak age.
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03-21-2018 , 12:49 PM
even better for 2020 then...they aren't super young like Denver. their top players in MPG other than Ingles are 27 or younger--Gobert is 25 and Mitchell is 21. 20th youngest in age but their two best players going forward are 25 and younger.
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03-21-2018 , 12:50 PM
lol me actually i totally forgot about brandon ingram. they shouldn't pay randle regardless


edit: gobert is 25 which is young enough. mitchell obv super young. rest of them are replaceable even if they contribute meaningfully, though maybe tough for utah to replace their aggregate contributions
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03-21-2018 , 12:58 PM
lolutah
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03-21-2018 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
lol me actually i totally forgot about brandon ingram.

I was going to say. He's been so much better lately, putting up an efficient and productive 17/5/5 during the last 20 games or so. The passing and +/- stuff have been the most notable improvements. I'm not sure where to find the STATS on it but I feel like he used to get 90+% of his assists giving the ball up with <5 secs left on the shot clock and now he's been playing a lot better team ball. Call it the LUKELONZO effect
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03-21-2018 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
lol me actually i totally forgot about brandon ingram. they shouldn't pay randle regardless


edit: gobert is 25 which is young enough. mitchell obv super young. rest of them are replaceable even if they contribute meaningfully, though maybe tough for utah to replace their aggregate contributions
I'm not on board with this sentiment, and I think it's very hard to maintain a bench that's as good as theirs without either going deep into spending or getting extremely lucky on FAs.
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03-21-2018 , 01:24 PM
Lakers' young core is Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma, and Randle*. If they strike out in free agency, then the following could be on 1-year deals: KCP, IT, Lopez. Then some other potential young talent or role players on the bench.

Don't think anyone is talking about HCA, but if that core keeps developing (who are only in their 1st, 1st, 2nd, or 4th seasons right now), then yes, they could make the 5 or 6 seed within 2 years. Obviously to make the 3 seed, they need to fill at least 1 of their 2 big FA spots. There's a good chance that happens though, and if they fill both, then watch out.


*Depending on free agency and cap space.
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03-21-2018 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by patron
Lakers' young core is Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma, and Randle*. If they strike out in free agency, then the following could be on 1-year deals: KCP, IT, Lopez. Then some other potential young talent or role players on the bench.

Don't think anyone is talking about HCA, but if that core keeps developing (who are only in their 1st, 1st, 2nd, or 4th seasons right now), then yes, they could make the 5 or 6 seed within 2 years. Obviously to make the 3 seed, they need to fill at least 1 of their 2 big FA spots. There's a good chance that happens though, and if they fill both, then watch out.


*Depending on free agency and cap space.
Is there any chance the Lakers keep Randle? Even if they strike out on FAs this summer, I think they most likely keep dreaming about hitting it big in 2019, and signing Randle means they won't have space for two max players.
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03-21-2018 , 01:45 PM
Lonzo minus Ingram has been a disaster.

Ingram minus lonzo was nbd.
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03-21-2018 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
Hot take : Harden right now is better than any player has ever been in the history of the game.

He's taking the least efficient type of possession and turning it into scoring at an elite rate.
Cool story but he's probably getting shut down by some solid wing defender in 6 weeks and thus ending the Rockets season early. Him/D'Antoni/CP3 on the same team?

Can't believe more people aren't expecting a premature 2nd rd exit from this team.
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03-21-2018 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
Lonzo minus Ingram has been a disaster.

Ingram minus lonzo was nbd.

Lol. We have a large sample of both playing without the other and you're just completely wrong.
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03-21-2018 , 01:52 PM
That would be a cool story if they weren't able to get a switch whenever they wanted. A big reason his ISO PPP has been stratospheric is that's almost impossible not to switch on him because he's too good at pulling up and driving to go around any screens..
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03-21-2018 , 01:56 PM
Didn't seem to bother Jonathan Simmons last year.

It's a little early to get into the whole "Harden games the system and it is much tougher to do in the postseason" thing but I see Hou losing to OKC/SA (Kawhi healthy) before I see them beating GS. I know the betting markets don't really back that up but I'm pretty skeptical of this team.
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