Id say he's 6th right now, and if you factor in going forward he's still 6th because he jumps DAJ but gets jumped by Towns

DAJ, Jokic, and Otto at least in theory make a good team great without taking anything off the table, that's much different than Wiggins imo. With Nikola you can even argue that he's more valuable with better talent. The difference between players like DAJ/Otto and "stars" like Jokic are that they can also be relied on to carry the offensive load.

Luck definitely plays a part, but they did very little if anything to maintain or elevate the value of players that they didn't intend to keep. If they had somehow managed to play Nerlens with a decent amount of talent around him, I think you could have teams chomping at the bit to grab his rights for the next four years.

That's kind of chicken and egg though right? Could just as easily say team results are heavily influenced by what advanced stats the players get (which is the theoretical point of the stats). "It's just because Nuggets win a lot" isn't a very powerful rebuttal if Jokic is heavily responsible for these wins, as the stats SEEM to show?

Like the ****ing Pacers asdf notbittertho

Dood, c'mon. Towns is the focal point of the opponent's game plan each and every game. Has Jokic ever seen anything remotely like the double teams Denver brought vs Towns on every touch last night?? Towns is also playing out of position next to a lane clogging center (when Jokic tried this he fared so poorly he was benched for like a month).

How realistic is that plan when it's three centers all of whom can only play center? The Sixers even got "lucky" in the sense that Oakafor got to be the starter last season when he should probably be third on the depth chart.

Dammit, how do i embed twiiters?

it was working before your last edit

woah

restored

What's the latest on Simmons' timetable anyway?

They havn't really given any. He's out of the boot and doing some stuff on court but I think it's mainly just standstill shooting stuff.

Would be pretty amazing if sixers owner actually did veto picking porzingis, sounds plausible

The jokic>towns is complete slander, jokic is very good but towns is the superior player and asset

Not going to criticize Towns as a prospect or asset, but his current playing level is being massively overrated and his defense is a clear question mark

This is just not a real critique, everyone on the basketball floor must do all of the things-- move off ball, contest shots at the rim, help, run the floor, etc. All the things Wiggins isn't doing in Duncan's critique are embarrassing and he should feel bad.

The Curry stopper has been playing really well this year, and I for one, am really happy for him.

Looks like he'll be an All-Star this season too.

X-post from Game Day Thread:

That's IF Dolan doesn't sign DRose. CP3 will likely be staying in L.A. to get PAID (with the new CBA provision that he helped create) and Steph Curry will (very) likely re-sign with GSW.

http://hoopshype.com/2016/11/01/nba-...-point-guards/

Looks like Kyle Lowry, Jrue Holiday, and Jeff Teague are what's left (Also George Hill). Strike out with them and the Knicks may have literally no point guard better than DRose to sign in the 2017 offseason.

Well after a little more bulking up I would much prefer Porzingis to be playing Center more/less full-time next season. Which will make Noah superfluous. Also that's not even mentioning how well O'Quinn has been playing and at times Hernangomez too.

Kevin Love? Agreed.

westbrook clutch stats are just absurd lol 130 points. next closest is isaiah thomas at 83.

Victor,

This month he has a 68% USG 129 ORtg and 79 Drtg in the clutch!

Correct!

Hoiberg on the hotseat. Sick scapegoating by Paxson

Edit: also an interesting article about playing Tyus Jones over Rubio http://bballbreakdown.com/2016/12/29...er-the-answer/

Cliffs are that Tyus Jones is more of a stabilizing force than Rubio despite being much younger and that the stability matters a lot because the Wolves are extremely undisciplined

Not that I'm an eye-candy man ftmp, but Seerhat Sohi being in the video is quite nice.

Yeah seems like they really have nothing to lose throwing Tyus in there and seeing what happens.

Also Wiggins is 6'8" with a 6'11" wingspan and insane athleticism. He's not undersized for the 3 at all, you don't get credit for playing "out of position" if you're not actually out of position.

When KD played the 2 he wasn't quick enough to be a proper SG, his stats sucked but he had a real excuse.

It's his 3rd year and he turns 22 in 6 weeks, he's had time to fill out his frame, he's had time to break bad habits. He has a lower BLK% than Kyle Korver and a lower TRB% than Mike Dunleavy. Dean was right, he's a slanker.

I doubt it. Hinkie was also rogue enough to have selected Porzingis, if he wanted with the knowledge he could/would be fired. His exit letter was a literal YOLO Statement. He just missed on Porzingis like he missed on pretty much everything else.