You sound like you have a room temperature IQ and are incapable of projecting into the future.

Lol what? Hinkie (up to this point) missed on everypick even Embiid. Health matters and until Embiid is healthy for a prolonged stretch where the 76ers win games, he is a bust.

Like how could Hinkie not ship Okafor to LAL on draft night for the unprotected rights to that pick? Easiest move ever at the time and then the 76ers get to draft Ingram and Simmons this summer.

Hinkie was both lucky in his dealings with other GMs and overall terrible in his tenure, a difficult thing to do.

Also LOL at never making a big trade, never turned Covington into a future pick. Just the worst team year after year after year after year.

Its not a debate, it's how bad was Hinkie. There is no debate. Stop

Reasonable projection: Noel goes to another team and thrives, Okafor and Saric are forever bad, Simmons and Embiid are hurt more often than not
Covington and Sauce Castillo have the best careers of any player acquired by Hinkie

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We are on an internet forum, there is no sound and yet he claims I sounds like......

The Bucks were going nowhere before Giannis, he's younger than Embiid, he has never been injured

there's a top 5 players once every 2 or 3 drafts, so basically what philly did by destroying there team was getting less than 10% chance to hit a star through the draft. And the bucks did it without tanking

You are all talking like Embiid was the announced Duncan, Davis or Lebron but he wasn't. There was no way to see a semi-lock top 5 player in that guy, and most of the time you don't really know what you get when you draft in the top 5

IF you want to talk about odds without result oriented, Hornets were 25% to hit a future top 5 player itl by tanking the right year, that's closer than philly ever was over that 4 years of tanking

The Hinkie assessment should be a super interesting debate but unfortunately it always seems to bring out the worst of TZ GM's and TZ doctors and we find ourselves with a bunch of bias, result-orientation, know-it-all and homerism instead of smart exchanges

Top 6 NBA team with lol Doug Collins at the helm, before the Bynum trade. But yes lets ignore facts.

Its not a debate, its over. Hinkie was garbage.

Its similar to 2016 except 2016 has 1 out. The kid who Harambe died for needs to do something amazing for mankind in the future. Picture the odds on that and that's the chance that Hinkie's run at 76ers GM wasn't worse than what an average NBA Fan would have done in his spot

Surpsingly those who refer the most to that "result-oriented" thing are those who think Hinkie is great because after 20 games the greatest mistery of the last 2 years of basketball has played, without getting injured

TingsRgunagetGROSS Gonna take a few days off to calm down a little.

Debate over pls

What makes the Saric pick has nothing to do with his endgame, it's the fact that he didn't come over until he wasn't bound by the rookie scale meaning they esentially burned a lotto pick to wait 4 years to pay market rate on a guy who might one day become a decent 6th man

What % of GM's could/would have done a job equal to or better than Hinkie, if given complete support by ownership to do whatever they wanted and all out tank as long as desired?

The Dario trade got them the 35th pick in the 2015 draft as well (Hernangomez), which they flipped for the Knicks' 2020 and 2021 seconds. I didn't like this second trade but it's pretty nice that moving down two spots got them a future 1st back plus two future seconds.

You can argue against the pick itself (though I think the criticism is still too soon) but the value was pretty incredible.

The Okafor pick was terrible though. We'll never know it was Hinkie or ownership but it leaves a bad stain on Hinkie's record.

You're mistaken. He's still bound by the rookie scale - he came over after two years, not three. It's even better because he'll be bound by the rookie scale during more of his prime years than he would have been otherwise.

Yes Saric was dumb and should fire his agent, he waited 1 more year, he would have got a nuts deal with philly cap space, and the hype around him

I doubt it's a thing, but if Okafor just accepted the role of 20-22 MPG backup C to Embiid and wanted to beat up on second units in hopes it was his best chance of getting a lucrative second deal instead of exposing himself as a defensive and rebounding fraud vs first units it'd be pretty awesome but the list of guys who'd be okay with that is pretty low. Them playing together is not a thing.

Oh, lol Saric then

Confirmed room temp IQ

I mean in the end your edit is right, both Jah and Nerlens are not long for this team long term and the guy who can give 15 - 20 decent mins at C and wont be a prima donna about it all is Holmes.

Holmes is probably the best of the 3 anyway

Uh, part of the job of GM is hiring a coach, the Wizards hired Scott Brooks.

Part of the job of a GM is not letting Bismack walk, not picking Frank Kaminsky (!) over trading the pick to the Celtics or drafting Justise themselves

I don't know if you guys know what the C market is like, but I don't know if they could get a mid to late first for Jah right now. Who the **** is going to make that guy their starting C?

Kanter was traded for a 2018 lottery protected from oklahoma when Durant was still there, so a late first round

Jalil is probably worth less than Kanter