Doubt Wiggins's footwork could have terrified Stephanie as much as Love did in the most important possession of his life

Seems strange to say Dean is being results oriented then use the results (Lebron signing with Cleveland thus giving Cleveland a reason to go for it and trade their #1 pick for Love) to backup Wiggins as the correct #1 pick.

good job sixers

That's not even close to what I was arguing geez.

What on earth? It's strange to use results to point out that if you want to be results oriented then Wiggins is still the correct pick?

Sorry, it was a tad unfair, but it just grates to read things like "I'd rather have Gary Harris + assets" or "Smart is going to be paid less". You want assets thrown in and Smart is going to get less because Wiggins is better than both of those players. The attitude of "Wiggins is bad because people think he's possibly better that he actually is and you could probably use that to work a positive trade" just makes absolutely no sense to me

inspiring figure

Listened to "the ringer nba show" where they talked about RWB potentially averaging a triple double at the end of the season. One of them thought he would come up short by not getting enough assists. Wat.

Ricky Rubio has been so, so, so awful this year. It's crazy how far he's fallen, he's no longer making the sort of positive plays he used to. Defensively he can't stay in front of people, he still gambles but isn't recovering as much, has made a bunch of dumb late-in-the-shot-clock fouls, he's turning the ball over at the highest rate of his career, his usage has plummeted, his assist % has plummeted..

You wanna know why the Wolves have been so bad? PG play is the first part of the answer.

Season	Age	Tm	Lg	MP	PER	TS%	3PAr	FTr	TRB%	AST%	STL%	TOV%	USG%
2011-12	21	MIN	NBA	1404	14.6	.476	.242	.404	6.7	37.4	3.3	22.2	18.7
2012-13	22	MIN	NBA	1691	16.2	.482	.179	.514	7.7	38.8	4.2	21.4	21.2
2013-14	23	MIN	NBA	2638	15.4	.491	.199	.422	7.1	37.8	3.6	21.8	16.4
2014-15	24	MIN	NBA	692	15.2	.452	.233	.324	10.3	43.5	2.8	20.4	20.0
2015-16	25	MIN	NBA	2323	17.6	.529	.324	.536	8.2	41.4	3.5	21.0	17.7
2016-17	26	MIN	NBA	353	12.5	.507	.419	.548	7.4	30.5	2.6	24.5	12.6

Know what the fun thing about that 3PAr is? He's shooting 25.0% on the season.

edit: more fun!

On Court	OFFRTG	DEFRTG	NETRTG
Ricky Rubio	101.6	109.8	-8.2

On Court	OFFRTG	DEFRTG	NETRTG
Ricky Rubio	108.1	103.2	4.9

Also seems the game has passed Thibs by.

There's been a few articles about how POR spent a ton of money last off season, Turner's contract, Crabbe's contract both being really high etc. Lost in all that was them signing Moe Harkless for an extremely reasonable 4/40. As if it wasn't bad enough stealing him in a trade, that's a great deal.

On the other end of the spectrum- Evan Turner was -3 in a 22 point win tonight. Pretty impressive.

ftr I never said he was bad, and neither did Dean as far as I can tell. Both of us have said that his talents aren't translating into positive basketball, and both of us have backed that up with the numbers. Whether or not he improves to being a positive player (or is one now) is up for discussion, and I think Dean and I have acquitted ourselves ok in arguing why he might not.

And yes because everyone and their mother thinks he's going to be awesome I absolutely think it's a good time to sell high, especially when his skillset is redundant with your two other cornerstones, one being untouchable and one not getting enough on the trade market.

But people can keep saying nonsense like "Dump Wiggins keep Lavine, lol" even though I'm explicitly stating all the other variables that are involved.

I have made a few bets that he will and will probably make a few more. (I got good odds early). Obviously rebounding is the only thing stopping him, but if you take into account:

1) Teams are forcing him to give up the ball leading to his teammates shooting, and unlike a lot of PGs RWB has carte-blanche to hunt for the OBoards. This hurts a lot of teams, but as OKC is constructed they seem to be OK at transition defense even with him hitting the offensive glass.

2) Their bigs, in particular Steven Adams, are great at boxing out but don't necessarily hunt for rebounds, and nobody on their team is going to try and steal one from Russ. I think a lot of it is by design as RWB getting a defensive bucket has a better chance of a transition basket.

Plus the extra minutes, the fact that he takes a lot of FT line pull-ups, and you've just got a lot more opportunities to get boards.

I think he's gonna do it!

Wiggins is so bad and such a bust they should trade him for an above average 1st overall pick in the prime of his career, and assets

Seadood,

Yes, a possession that starts with a RUSS defensive rebound has rated incredibly, historically

RUSS is the GOAT under 6'6

if you think this is a top 5% outcome for embiid's health you simply haven't looked at the past results for this kind of foot injury

Top 10 asset Nurkic has become a top 10 flaming pile of poo lately. Wonder if we can get an Otto Porter for him

They are going to take it slow but yeah the guy has a dozen games at 23mpg. He has a way too high chance of u200 career games/0 seasons of 70games with 30mpg.

Also Wiggins PER was 20 about 4 games ago, he had a **** few games.

Thibs strikes me as more of a college coach type. Like Keady or Frank Martin.

I'm no Wiggins bear, but are you saying Wall is an above-average #1? If so, that sounds a bit off.