this site is pretty neat

https://pudding.cool/2017/02/two-minute-report/

What's Isaiah Thomas' trade value? Why not draft Fultz, sign Hayward, then trade IT + next year's Nets pick for Butler/George?

Bradley-Hayward-George-Crowder-Horford is your now.

Fultz-Smart-Brown as your future.

lol Lavar haters

This guy is a legend and more people know who he is than anyone in MLB or NHL probably. The sports media is covering him like the news media covered Trump. He's playing this perfectly.

Probably gonna make 3B (as in billions) over the next 10 years.

Hayward isn't going to a worse team in a worse city to do the same job and take a $30,000,000 pay cut over the next 4 years.

that's not even a contrarian POV, you are straight trollin..... unless you will SHOW YOUR WORK

Yeah it really isn't, obviously what he is doing is pretty transparent.

Just saying I give the guy credit for taking advantage of the stupidity of our sports media and basically realizing what someone like Floyd Mayweahter or Trump realized, on some level all pub is good pub. Just eat up the news cycle.

If his son is good, they're going to make a lot more money in endorsements than another player of similar caliber will.

Fwiw, I think if Ainge truly believes Ball > Fultz then it doesn't impact his decision making if he keeps the pick. But we'll never really know the answer to that question. Definitely gotta be tough to take a guy #1 when another guy is right there with him in talent and much more willing to play for you.

Don't see any issue with drafting Ball/Fultz and bringing IT back. Can never have too many great players.

Doubt IT+next years Nets pick is landing George/Butler. IT has 1 year left on his deal and then you're going to have to pay him a lot of money.

And it is tough to say what the value of that last Nets pick has right now. Nets have a lot of cap room for this summer and they could easily be projected in the 35 win range which would make the pick around 8-10th rather than top 3.

Don't think you are getting Butler/George w/o the #1.

People say this, but then you end up having to dump Nerlens for a fairly low price in favor of Okafor because one wants a trade and one doesn't.

Gotta keep your guys happy, this ain't 2k

Jokic/Nurkic too

All 4 of those guys are super young. Thomas is 28. By the time he's mad about his playing time because Fultz is better he'll be in his 30s and his contract will almost be up anyway.

The guy they actually would need to get rid of is Smart and thats fine because he's terrible.

Saw somewhere that he/BBB has gotten over 50 million dollars worth of free publicity/advertising. Despite that they have sold less than 500 units in 2 weeks. That's utterly pathetic.

Lavar has cost Lonzo millions to date, not sure if he can make it up on the back end because he is still going to have to be great for that to happen.

Lavar in many ways is like Hinkie, Great game plan but poor execution.

it's also not comparable b/c the sixers and nuggets are not good

How has he cost him millions?

I'm pretty sure the big shoe companies aren't really giving deals to rookies anymore. Unless you come into the league with LeBron/Durant type of hype, they just don't really give you that much.

What did a Simmons or Wiggins get for their shoe deals?


also massive lol here for ESPN making this into a headline, what a pathetic company that is

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/1...-want-get-deal

what if Fultz is mad because he's the #1 pick and he's not getting a shot at ROY, not getting playtime, etc?

Simmons got 20M guaranteed with 20M available in bonuses. Ingram got 10M guaranteed with undisclosed bonuses. This draft is considered more hyped than last.

Lavar & Co are lucky to have netted 100k from their BBB shoes and other merch.

If he is good then he is going to dwarf that. Especially if he goes to LAL.

you tell him to go **** himself?

he just turned 19
he led his college team to like 10 wins last year
their best player is their PG
the team's goal is taking down labron in the east
if he can't get off the bench and help then that's on him

there's nothing wrong with bringing him along slowly

There have been other teams that have had top picks despite being championship teams. Lakers when they got Worthy, Celts with Bias.

But the Celts is a little different because Fultz and IT play the same position and IT is about to be a FA and the Celts have to make a decision on him.

lets not pretend like his dad is some sort of Machiavellian mastermind, a massive trainwreck will always get publicity

I guess that's part of the pre-draft work for them, trying to figure out if either Fultz or Ball are the kind of guy that would be a problem in the future in that context.
But either way, going "that's his problem, **** him.", doesn't fix the issue that you've blown all the value of a #1 pick.

doubt anything will ever top the chance to add Melo, Bosh, or Wade to an already good team, and winding up with Darko

think it only gets hard if they don't think they'll be able to move Thomas later, once Fultz is ready to run a contender

for now it seems like Fultz has plenty to learn, and doing so with this Celtics team is probably a very good situation for that

celtics really do need another creator on offense though. the diminishing returns stuff sounds good until teams start completely selling out on stopping a guy