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02-23-2017 , 01:57 PM
Wow, per Lowe if sixers don't get Mavs top 18 protected pick this year, it becomes their 2017 2nd and 2018 2nd.
02-23-2017 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
@ZachLowe_NBA
Sources: If Sixers do not receive Mavs top-18 protected pick this season, it converts to 2 2nd-round picks: Mavs 2nds in 2017 and 2018.

Bleh not a fan of that conversion. 76ers must have been convinced Noel was leaving.
His value must be so low and they knew long term he's prob not a good fit. Seems crazy
02-23-2017 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DannyOcean_
I'd use that glut of 2nds as often as I could to target players I want but might not get in the draft.

Picking at the #3 and #10 spots this year? Maybe package the #10 and some seconds to move up to #8 or #7 and grab your guy. Repeat as necessary - they have many opportunities to do this because they have five first round picks in the next three years. Just move up over and over and get the guys you want. And as detailed above, most of the second round picks are very early second round picks and thus have some non-zero value in EV terms.
You way overvaluing those second round picks
02-23-2017 , 01:59 PM
Wow Sixers pretty likely aren't getting a first for noel? LOL
02-23-2017 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TimmayB
Think you misunderstood the post completely. I would want them snap taking Nets 1st + anything if I was an Indy fan.
I was agreeing with you, "this analysis" referred to the other guy's argument
02-23-2017 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TimmayB
Not sure why BOS fans are wanting this so bad. You're still a dog to get past LeBron the next 3-4 years and by that time PG is declining and you've lost some of your really good assets.

Better off keeping all the assets (maybe even flip Horford for more) and looking to win in 3-4 years imo.

Basically I think it gets you a little more title equity now as opposed to having a good chunk of it down the road.
02-23-2017 , 02:00 PM
Oh wow the Mavericks ****ing robbed em.
02-23-2017 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
You way overvaluing those second round picks
It'd take like, 7 2nd rounders to move up from 10 to 8.
02-23-2017 , 02:01 PM
Had heard the 76ers were low on 2nd rounders so good thing they've got a few more headed their way.

They should trade all their 2nd rounders into one draft and then get a 2nd d-league team with 15 second round picks from one draft and just let them all play in the d-league together. Call it like the '18ers after they move them all to next year's draft.
02-23-2017 , 02:02 PM
LOL Sixers, maybe they will give Rob Covington 80 million after all
02-23-2017 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TimmayB
Not sure why BOS fans are wanting this so bad. You're still a dog to get past LeBron the next 3-4 years and by that time PG is declining and you've lost some of your really good assets.

Better off keeping all the assets (maybe even flip Horford for more) and looking to win in 3-4 years imo.

Basically I think it gets you a little more title equity now as opposed to having a good chunk of it down the road.
I would add I think you are probably overrating the Celts equity in 4-6 years by standing pat. They're only even like 50% or w/e to get Ball/Fultz.

I don't think teams can really take the mindset "The Warriors have a fantasy dream team, we should push everything back a half decade"
02-23-2017 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jh12547
Bos cant keep all their picks due to roster space. At some point they need to move something
Consolidating assets is important, but a PG rental is less valuable than a top pick in this draft. & he's not giving any assurances regarding staying.

Would much rather see them sit out this deadline, sign Heyward, draft Ball, & explore trades for AB &/or IT2 in the off-season.
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Originally Posted by Christophersen
Avery bradley went thru only portion of practice due to injury but refusing to talk to media. Maybe he's been told he's likely to be moved?
Or maybe he doesn't want to answer dumb questions about it?
02-23-2017 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
I was agreeing with you, "this analysis" referred to the other guy's argument


NBA Season Thread 2016-2017LOL. At least one of us can read I suppose. My bad.
02-23-2017 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TimmayB
Not sure why BOS fans are wanting this so bad. You're still a dog to get past LeBron the next 3-4 years and by that time PG is declining and you've lost some of your really good assets.

Better off keeping all the assets (maybe even flip Horford for more) and looking to win in 3-4 years imo.

Basically I think it gets you a little more title equity now as opposed to having a good chunk of it down the road.
A dog, but you raise your equity significantly. They have some nice assets but their two best players are 28 & 30 and are already a top ~7 team itl. You can't have your foot in both doors forever, at some point you have to make a move and trust that even though you're sacrificing your 10 year equity, when the time comes you'll be able to maneuver and put yourself in an advantageous position again.

Thomas/Smart/George/Crowder/Horford with Stevens coaching can hang with the Cavs. I agree with what Thakid said yesterday, if you know you can get Hayward this offseason I don't like this deal just bc Hayward is younger and better than George and you wouldn't be giving up assets to get him. But since it's extremely they could know that for sure I would be very tempted to pull the trigger if I'm Ainge.
02-23-2017 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LFC_USA
Wow is that their pick for this year? Protection makes all the difference in the world, but that seems like a good deal for Sixers.

EDIT: Just saw picks 1-18 protected??? Why would the Sixers do that?
Lol funny shift in one sentence.

This was definitely a great deal for the mavs.
02-23-2017 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
It'd take like, 7 2nd rounders to move up from 10 to 8.
I really want to see a deal involving 10 or more 2nd rounders being moved at once.
02-23-2017 , 02:06 PM
It seems like the Sixers valued Okafor more than Noel which is absolutely absurd.
02-23-2017 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GTO2.0
I really want to see a deal involving 10 or more 2nd rounders being moved at once.
LOL

like stacking 50 x $1 chips on a blackjack table
02-23-2017 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GTO2.0
I really want to see a deal involving 10 or more 2nd rounders being moved at once.
76ers just need to find a 9 way trade where they get some combo of players or lottery picks that they want and send 10 second rounders to like 3-5 of the other teams to balance things out.
02-23-2017 , 02:08 PM


lol
02-23-2017 , 02:08 PM
With those protections, as much of a steal as that is for Dallas, is it really that bad for Philly?

What else could they do? He didn't wanna be there and he is a pending RFA. Seems like his market was not exactly robust right now. If you're gonna criticize Phi for anything then I think it is not moving him earlier when he had a lot more value.

Seems like they just screwed themselves by waiting too long.
02-23-2017 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GeoffRas22
A dog, but you raise your equity significantly. They have some nice assets but their two best players are 28 & 30 and are already a top ~7 team itl. You can't have your foot in both doors forever, at some point you have to make a move and trust that even though you're sacrificing your 10 year equity, when the time comes you'll be able to maneuver and put yourself in an advantageous position again.

Thomas/Smart/George/Crowder/Horford with Stevens coaching can hang with the Cavs. I agree with what Thakid said yesterday, if you know you can get Hayward this offseason I don't like this deal just bc Hayward is younger and better than George and you wouldn't be giving up assets to get him. But since it's extremely they could know that for sure I would be very tempted to pull the trigger if I'm Ainge.
wat?
02-23-2017 , 02:08 PM
Thank you Colangelo for being a dumbass. Two second rounders and Anderson for Noel? That's insane, but I'm pumped about it.

I feel like it's especially good for Mavs considering we can never land a free agent.
02-23-2017 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNoodleMan
wat?


It's a true statement.

Also geoffras I agree with a lot of your long posts I just think their equity is much better if they wait for Bron to get a bit older. They still have enough young assets + Brad as to where finding ways to replace/improve after Horford is done is very doable.
02-23-2017 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TimmayB
Yeah DAL won that deal by a ****load. I don't see Anderson ever being a viable NBA piece and I was pretty high on him predraft relative to his draft position.
I know lots of people in dallas are sad Anderson go but he is likely at best a end of rotation guy on a good team. I know some are worried about him being another crowder but crowder was much more crystallized as being a decent player while he was in dallas. Anderson is about hope.

      
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