Man was he terrible last night, totally cost y'all the game.

Evan Turner has already undone all the good Olshey had ever done. Such a wtf signing.

Amazing people actually defended the signing

I havent had a chance to check out Portland games, but i still stand behind that he is an above replacement level player... I know stotts is way worse than Stevens... even tho the media pretended otherwise last year for COTY for some reason? why was that anyway...

but yea he is an overpay for sure, but what does an above replacement value player cost nowadays(even if you dont agree he is that) with room to improve


also

Preseason win totals for Cetics was 51.5-52.5 and for the bulls they opened up at 44.5 and then immediately got taken down and reopened at 38.5 with money on the over

Replacement level player = the hypothetical best guy chilling in the D League?

Of course he's better than that. If that guy was on the roster he'd just be sitting on the bench or chilling in the corner staying out of the way. The fit is what is so atrocious. Portland did not need a ball dominant meh player.

he's not above avg because of the role he demands. if evan turner is succeeding on your team then your team isn't a good one. tyreke evans theory basically.

you simply can't be as ball dominant and as mediocre/bad at everything else as he is and be a positive player. it isn't possible. he's the opposite of jj redick or kyle korver.

Do they need a guy to create off the bench? He is a solid creator. Guy can get in the lane and get his team high quality looks. It takes time for a player to adjust to a new team, system and coach

Thats not true, because evan succeeded last year and the celtics were obviously a good team

just because stotts is a way worse coach than brad stevens, isnt evans fault, its just how it goes

VMF makes good points. Sounds like stotts should stick to playing dress up and leave the coaching to the experts.

Evan Turner was put in the perfect position to succeed and was paid nothing to do so and was like the 7th best player on a team that was underdogs in the 1st round of the Eastern Conference playoffs.

I feel pretty good about saying he's not a good player nor is giving him a bunch of money a good idea.

LOL, I don't know what your problem with Stotts is, but the answer to your question is quite simple. POR lost their entire starting lineup except for Dame, had to seemingly scramble to fill out the roster, were projected to win something like 26 games, and ended up smack in the middle of the WC playoffs to basically everyone's surprise. STOTTS played a huge part in that. He had a strong case for COY if GS didn't have that record setting season.

hah come on saying the celts were an underdog in round 1 is somehow supposed to undermine that they were a good team?

he was a good player on a good team

you can argue that its a bad deal. i mean i thought hed get around 12 mill a year, woulda been happy to pay him at 8, but if they projected the cap is going up, then 15 could be close to reality, if they view he can improve, which i think he was

i dont have a problem with stottts, i have a problem with the media and COTY voters pretending he is better than brad stevens

i thought this thread used to make fun of people when they cast terrible votes on end of year awards

Ya Stotts did a much more impressive coaching job than Brad last year. And I love me some BRAD.

Evan Turner should not be paid anything if your goal is to win a championship. If he's playing for your team you will never be a contender. This isn't hard. It's ok man, you can just say "hey he was on my team last year and I'm a huge homer", you don't have to keep the bit going. He ****ing sucks.

I like what stotts has done in Portland, and has rebounded nicely from the debacle here in Milwaukee. Not like we had a chance to win anyway. Regardless, I have stotts as a top 5 coach itl.

1. Pop
2. Carlisle
3. Brad
4. Stotts
5. Walton (not Kerr)

Brad>Carlisle obv. And Kerr underrated. Jackson was terrible but the jump from '13-'14 Woyas to '14-'15 Woyas was pretty much all Kerr.

stotts has lillard, people knew he was a star before stotts, no one knew what isaiah thomas was before brad

was portlands defense even good last year? they were smoke and mirrors to me. west was dog crap after top 4 teams. he ran some good plays on offense, but brads job on defense, was absurdly impressive. the celts diddn have a rim protector

im not sure what a good player who can improve should get. what should someone you think is a good creator off the bench, with defense that doesnt tank you, should get?

hes better than jamal crawford right?

Thomas was legit on cancer Sactown, then curiously signed with the suns knowing Bledsoe and Dragic were there. He was finally freed in Beantown, that's all.

I don't think its obvious that brad>carlisle

Brad gets alot of love for winning 2 playoff games in 3 seasons

ya, got to wait till someone wins championships to recognize greatness, classic lakers fan

enjoy watching a snitch

2-8 in the playoffs in the loleast

So OKC 4-0, Orlando 1-3 having beaten Philly... Is Ibaka a giant cancer or is Oladipo super underrated? (or it could just be coincidence but that's boring :P)

wow this new tnt segment featuring KG is sick

KG