Would like Pistons over 36 if anyone likes the under

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ONE THREAD TO RULE THEM ALL
ONE THREAD TO GROUP THEM
ONE THREAD TO BRING THEM ALL AND IN THE DARKNESS HOOP THEM

First topic of discussion - make up calls are real, to absolutely no one's surprise.

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Here's a quick season preview. Starting lineups are projected based on ESPN's depth charts (with a little tweaking). There's still some lineups up in the air.

Western Conference- Southwest Division

San Antonio Spurs

Bovada o/u: 57 wins

Starting Lineup: Tony Parker, Danny Green, Kawhi Leonard, Tim Duncan, Tiago Splitter

Key Additions: none

Dallas Mavericks

Bovada o/u: 50 wins

Starting Lineup: Jameer Nelson, Monta Ellis, Chandler Parsons, Dirk Nowitzki, Tyson Chandler

Key Additions: Jameer Nelson, Chandler Parsons, Tyson Chandler

Houston Rockets

Bovada o/u: 49.5 wins

Starting Lineup: Patrick Beverley, James Harden, Trevor Ariza, Terrence Jones, Dwight Howard

Key Additions: Trevor Ariza, Jason Terry

Memphis Grizzlies

Bovada o/u: 49 wins

Starting Lineup: Mike Conley, Courtney Lee, Tony Allen, Zach Randolph, Marc Gasol

Key Additions: Vince Carter, Jordan Adams

New Orleans Pelicans

Bovada o/u: 43 wins

Starting Lineup: Jrue Holiday, Eric Gordon, Tyreke Evans, Anthony Davis, Omer Asik

Western Conference- Pacific Division

Los Angeles Clippers

Bovada o/u: 56.5 wins

Starting Lineup: Chris Paul, JJ Redick, Matt Barnes, Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan

Key Additions: Spencer Hawes

Golden State Warriors

Bovada o/u: 51.5 wins

Starting Lineup: Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Andre Iguodala, David Lee, Andrew Bogut

Key Additions: Steve Kerr (coach), Shaun Livingston

Phoenix Suns

Bovada o/u: 44 wins

Starting Lineup: Goran Dragic, Eric Bledsoe, PJ Tucker, Markieff Morris, Miles Plumlee

Key Additions: Isaiah Thomas, TJ Warren

Los Angeles Lakers

Bovada o/u: 30.5 wins

Starting Lineup: Ronnie Price, Kobe Bryant, Wesley Johnson, Carlos Boozer, Jordan Hill

Key Additions: Byron Scott (coach), Julius Randle, Carlos Boozer, Jeremy Lin

Sacramento Kings

Bovada o/u: 30 wins

Starting Lineup: Darren Collison, Ben McLemore, Rudy Gay, Jason Thompson, DeMarcus Cousins

Key Additions: Darren Collison, Ramon Sessions, Nik Stauskas

Western Conference- Northwest Division

Oklahoma City Thunder

Bovada o/u: 52.5 wins

Starting Lineup: Russell Westbrook, Reggie Jackson, Andre Roberson, Serge Ibaka, Kendrick Perkins

Key Additions: Anthony Morrow, Mitch McGary

Portland Trailblazers

Bovada o/u: 49.5 wins

Starting Lineup: Damian Lillard, Wesley Mathews, Nicolas Batum, LaMarcus Aldridge, Robin Lopez

Key Additions: Steve Blake, Chris Kaman

Denver Nuggets

Bovada o/u: 41.5 wins

Starting Lineup: Ty Lawson, Arron Afflalo, Danilo Gallinari, Kenneth Faried, Timofey Mozgov

Key Additions: Arron Afflalo, Danilo Gallinari (injury), Javale McGee (injury)

Minnesota Timberwolves

Bovada o/u: 27.5 wins

Starting Lineup: Ricky Rubio, Kevin Martin, Corey Brewer, Thaddeus Young, Nikola Pekovic

Key Additions: Andrew Wiggins, Thaddeus Young, Anthony Bennett, Flip Saunders (coach)

Utah Jazz

Bovada o/u: 26 wins

Starting Lineup: Trey Burke, Alec Burks, Gordon Hayward, Derrick Favors, Enes Kanter

Key Additions: Dante Exum, Rodney Hood

Eastern Conference- Central Division

Cleveland Cavaliers

Bovada o/u: 58.5 wins

Starting Lineup: Kyrie Irving, Dion Waiters, LeBron James, Kevin Love, Anderson Varejao

Key Additions: LeBron James, Kevin Love, Mike Miller, David Blatt (coach)

Chicago Bulls

Bovada o/u: 54.5 wins

Starting Lineup: Derrick Rose, Jimmy Butler, Mike Dunleavy, Pau Gasol, Joakim Noah

Key Additions: Pau Gasol, Nikola Mirotic, Doug McDermott

Detroit Pistons

Bovada o/u: 36 wins

Starting Lineup: Brandon Jennings, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Josh Smith, Greg Monroe, Andre Drummond

Key Additions: Stan Van Gundy (coach), Jodie Meeks (injured), DJ Augustin, Caron Butler, Cartier Martin

Indiana Pacers

Bovada o/u: 33 wins

Starting Lineup: George Hill, Rodney Stuckey, CJ Miles, David West, Roy Hibbert

Key Additions: Rodney Stuckey, CJ Miles

Milwaukee Bucks

Bovada o/u: 24.5 wins

Starting Lineup: Brandon Knight, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Jabari Parker, Ersan Ilyasova, Larry Sanders

Key Additions: Jason Kidd (coach), Jabari Parker

Eastern Conference- Atlantic Division

Toronto Raptors

Bovada o/u: 48.5 wins

Starting Lineup: Kyle Lowry, Terrence Ross, DeMar Derozan, Amir Johnson, Jonas Valanciunas

Key Additions: Lou Williams

Brooklyn Nets

Bovada o/u: 41.5 wins

Starting Lineup: Deron Williams, Joe Johnson, Andrei Kirilenko, Kevin Garnett, Brook Lopez

Key Additions: Lionel Hollins (coach), Jarrett Jack

New York Knicks

Bovada o/u: 40.5 wins

Starting Lineup: Jose Calderon, Iman Shumpert, Carmelo Anthony, Amar'e Stoudemire, Samuel Dalembert

Key Additions: Derek Fisher (coach), Samuel Dalembert, Jason Smith

Boston Celtics

Bovada o/u: 27 wins

Starting Lineup: Rajon Rondo, Avery Bradley, Jeff Green, Jared Sullinger, Kelly Olynyk

Key Additions: Marcus Smart, Marcus Thornton, James Young

Philadelphia 76ers

Bovada o/u: 16 wins

Starting Lineup: Michael Carter-Williams, KJ McDaniels, Hollis Thompson, Nerlens Noel, Henry Sims

Key Additions: Nerlens Noel (injury), Joel Embiid, KJ McDaniels

Eastern Conference- Southeast Division

Washington Wizards

Bovada o/u: 48 wins

Starting Lineup: John Wall, Bradley Beal, Paul Pierce, Nene Hilario, Marcin Gortat

Key Additions: Paul Pierce, DeJuan Blair, Kris Humphries

Charlotte Hornets

Bovada o/u: 44.5 wins

Starting Lineup: Kemba Walker, Lance Stephenson, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Marvin Williams, Al Jefferson

Key Additions: Lance Stephenson, Marvin Williams

Miami Heat

Bovada o/u: 44 wins

Starting Lineup: Mario Chalmers, Dwyane Wade, Luol Deng, Josh McRoberts, Chris Bosh

Key Additions: Luol Deng, Josh McRoberts, Danny Granger

Atlanta Hawks

Bovada o/u: 42 wins

Starting Lineup: Jeff Teague, Kyle Korver, DeMarre Carroll, Paul Millsap, Al Horford

Key Additions: Thabo Sefolosha

Orlando Magic

Bovada o/u: 27.5 wins

Starting Lineup: Elfrid Payton, Evan Fournier, Maurice Harkless, Tobias Harris, Nikola Vucevic

Key Additions: Elfrid Payton, Evan Fournier, Aaron Gordon

Projected Western Conference Standings (based on Bovada odds)

1. San Antonio Spurs
2. Los Angeles Clippers
3. Oklahoma City Thunder
4. Golden State Warriors
5. Dallas Mavericks
6. Houston Rockets (tie)
7. Portland Trailblazers (tie)
8. Memphis Grizzlies
9. Phoenix Suns
10. New Orleans Pelicans
11. Denver Nuggets
12. Los Angeles Lakers
13. Sacramento Kings
14. Minnesota Timberwolves
15. Utah Jazz

Projected Eastern Conference Standings (based on Bovada odds)

1. Cleveland Cavaliers
2. Chicago Bulls
3. Toronto Raptors
4. Washington Wizards
5. Charlotte Hornets
6. Miami Heat
7. Atlanta Hawks
8. Brooklyn Nets
9. New York Knicks
10. Detroit Pistons
11. Indiana Pacers
12. Orlando Magic
13. Boston Celtics
14. Milwaukee Bucks
15. Philadelphia 76ers

Finally.

Like the Pelicans to make the playoffs somehow.

Let's gogogogogo!

Steve Nash had a very good career. Seems like a good guy. He couldn't beat those Spurs tho.

I see the One Thread Coalition coordinated an early attack in an attempt to silence the debate before it even began.

I have filed an injunction with the mods on behalf of the Two Thread Party to prevent further posts on the subject until my fellow brethren arrive to join the discussion.

Bottom line for me: With one thread, non game discussion is stifled daily around 4pm PST and doesn't resume until the next morning. With two threads, no discussion is stifled for any period of time.

So one option stifles non-game discussion for damn near half of every day, while the other option doesn't stifle any discussion. Ever.

The choice is clear, yet we have posters who can't let go of the glory days of TZ and prefer to stifle discussion in favor of artificially inflating the post count itt. You know who else stifled discussion due to selfishness? The Nazis.

Just have one mega game thread.

Ya.

One game thread all season would be a fun place to pop in and drop some time relevant hot takes.

1) The Game Thread will be at the top of the forum every single day beginning around 4pm PST. If these people can't find that thread then they're ******ed and we're lucky to not have to read their "analysis" or "insight".

2) Having a million "LOL Byron Scott ZOMG!!" posts itt doesn't help create the highest ceiling for discussion. Game day thread type posts are the exact opposite of discussion. They're all one-liners pertaining to whatever game that person is watching.

I like a mega game thread. People can still post general thoughts about teams/players in this thread during games as long as there's content involved. Game threads just capture the no-content stuff.

One thread IMO reduces post count because people (like me) who don't have time seriously post and read TZ less due to overwhelming effort to wade through and get to the real discussion.

Also, despite those whining, every time game threads happen, it sure seems like the overwhelming consensus is that TZ is infinitely more readable.

Bobbo used to do a great job of quoting any game thread stuff that happened to be a nugget worth discussing and moving it into TZ. That's always an option for the one non-ebola comment a night.

This is definitely worth trying I think. One TZ is still much better than hundreds of game threads though if it comes to that.

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Good post.
+1
I vote one mega game thread.

Lebron's first game in Cleveland is going to be crazy

one thing simmons has said that I'm buying into is that Cleveland should have a massive home court advantage this year. He said that cleveland games would be a 'religious experience' level of crazy, and I don't think he's wrong. They had some GREAT crowds when Bron was there, and the hype is at a new level now with a much better team and a prodigal son story line. That crowd could be insane.

If they stay healthy, I don't think they'll lose. They are better than the last two-year's editions of the the Heat virtually everywhere.

I want Cleveland to struggle out of the gate like the Heat did in their first year (think they were 9-8 so "struggle" is of course relative) so we see how the fans/city react.

But I don't see that happening. Kyrie gonna go off this year methinks.

The city probably wouldn't care imo. Their son is back home and everyone knows he will figure it out.