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06-06-2012 , 08:44 PM
lol @ spanking new AIDS

Can't wait for that league office Early Bird Rights decision for Lin and Novak. I have a good feeling that they will get their EB Rights back, meaning the Knicks can retain and sign both players going over the cap in the process.

Then the Knicks could use the MLE to sign another player, like Dragic maybe or even less likely Nash.

My home boy Novak aka Discount Triple Check be loving New York and MSG baby!

Last edited by All-inMcLovin; 06-06-2012 at 08:53 PM. Reason: Shot of Novakaine
06-06-2012 , 08:46 PM
I mean the Perk deal looked pretty good at the time, sunk the Celtics that year, and Presti also said that he did it in part to free up playing time for James Harden. I don't remember anyone arguing with it at the time.
06-06-2012 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
Perk's value coming off an ACL tear was pretty close to zero for us.

Between KG/Shaq/JON/Krstic/FFD we had enough big man depth such that we could afford to lose him, he was no less AIDSy than Krstic or Green himself, only Green played a position of greater need.

And the key is that WE GOT A CLIPPERS 1ST ROUNDER. That was on the fast track to being a late lotto pick prior to the CP3 deal, and still is worth more than any other asset that changed hands during the deal. I mean you can't criticize the deal and leave out the most important part of it, it was AIDS filler for AIDS filler + 1st round pick, not hard to discern which side is better.
perk trade was a slam dunk lol a++ for the celts. dude is horrible and massively overpaid.
06-06-2012 , 08:52 PM
^^^ See that's what I'm saying. First round DP has less value to a team that is contending with a short window, is it worth letting go of one of your crucial players mid season? I didn't like the call then, but I do now.

If they were trending upwards I could see it, but not for a team that was in the twilight of contending.
06-06-2012 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Noze
I mean the Perk deal looked pretty good at the time, sunk the Celtics that year, and Presti also said that he did it in part to free up playing time for James Harden. I don't remember anyone arguing with it at the time.
Eh I think an angle that is under-considered by everybody is that they fail to de-value an injured player who gets traded. The team trading him has more information than everyone else, after all.

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Originally Posted by Seadood228
^^^ See that's what I'm saying. First round DP has less value to a team that is contending with a short window, is it worth letting go of one of your crucial players mid season? I didn't like the call then, but I do now.

If they were trending upwards I could see it, but not for a team that was in the twilight of contending.
Shaq was >>> Perk and JON was > Perk last year. Even tho Shaq was out for the playoffs, just having one of them healthy made Perk expendable. Would have been even more expendable if FFD didn't have the AIDSiest playoffs of all time.

As underwhelming as Green was, he provided a bigger upgrade over lol Sasha than Perk did over our bigs like FFD + Krstic. Even if you want to argue that it's a short term neutral deal, freerolling a 1st rounder is still good, and we could have used it as an asset in acquiring an pro this year (i.e. we needed every asset we could get to have a shot at CP3, seemed we had a non-zero shot at one point).
06-06-2012 , 09:06 PM
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Shot of Novakaine
06-06-2012 , 11:58 PM
durant v labron

who ya got?
06-06-2012 , 11:59 PM
King James, easily.
06-07-2012 , 12:04 AM
Skip Bayless ‏@RealSkipBayless

I said during Kevin Durant's freshman year at Texas he'd one day be the NBA's best player. He has been for two years. Proved it again tonite
06-07-2012 , 12:07 AM
Durant now 18 straight 4th q minutes without a fg
06-07-2012 , 12:38 AM
BossmanJR now 18 straight years without kissing a girl.
06-07-2012 , 12:48 AM
Durant took down the Mavs, Lakers and Spurs (and Boston or Miami) en route to his RANG. What a run. Just GOATish.
06-07-2012 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mcb33f
durant v labron

who ya got?
I'd probably take LeBron for first 36 minutes and take Durant for last 12 minutes.

I'd snap take fist pump take Durant for last 3 minutes.

Durant to me is like Iceman 2.0, like a modern day improved George Gervin with better rebounding, defense, and facilitating. +++Clutch too of course.
06-07-2012 , 08:03 PM
didn't Durant have awful clutch numbers until this year? and we've pretty much proven that KD is just as capable of sitting in the corner while inferior players lose him the game. Media brainwashing ftw
06-07-2012 , 08:07 PM
He's hit a few game winners in the playoffs. Some were lucky bounces, but still.
06-07-2012 , 08:52 PM
durant showed actual significant progress as a ballhandler, passer and offensive initiator this year (stats bear this out). no surprise that he is more effective in cruch time. he was also better in late clock situations (higher efg, higher usg and lower astd%), which imo is a reasonable proxy for the kind of shots guys can create in a cruchtime type situation
06-07-2012 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by trainwreckog
i have heard that before from stats guys for sure - that they don't believe guys get hot, or in the zone. this is equivalent to thinking the earth is flat or being one of those religious crazies. absolute insanity that occurs because of lack of experience and a little denial.

the truth is that the thunder play harder for brooks than they would for a lot of other coaches. think about it. these new school kids that wear nerd glasses and think they know everything, really like brooks, and have conducted themselves extremely well. maybe it is just sheer luck on brooks' part or maybe he has something to do with it.
Not sure if you are trolling, but those two scenarios are pretty much not comparable. Also show me scientific proof that the hot-hand theory exists and I will believe you on that (hint: you can't).
06-07-2012 , 08:53 PM
Anyway to watch this upcoming documentary on the Dream Team if I don't get NBA TV and don't particularly want to pay for it?
06-07-2012 , 09:00 PM
internet
06-07-2012 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Biesterfield
Also show me scientific proof that the hot-hand theory exists and I will believe you on that (hint: you can't).
Being "in the zone" is a well-established phenomenon. It hasn't been proven to apply to basketball but that doesn't mean that it doesn't.
06-07-2012 , 09:56 PM
LeBron James: not a pure scorer
06-07-2012 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sards
Being "in the zone" is a well-established phenomenon. It hasn't been proven to apply to basketball but that doesn't mean that it doesn't.
It has also been proven to not apply to other sports. Again, I would like to see the study.

However I do agree with your statement that just because you cant prove something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. In statistics speak, failing to reject the null hypothesis doesn't mean the alternative hypothesis is untrue.
06-07-2012 , 10:08 PM
where can i find 1st half 2nd half splits? google is surprising yielding very little
06-07-2012 , 11:16 PM
LeBron reminding everyone who's #1. Including KD.
06-07-2012 , 11:36 PM
so i guess heat will be favs over okc, they're currently equal odds to rang at 2.11-1 (so like 47% - juice) (and 6-1 for boston). g7 odds are like 82.5% for heat, and that * .545 = 45%. so books think heat will be like 55% to win v okc. interesting imo and a little surprising. maybe my maff is wrong

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Originally Posted by CheckRaise
where can i find 1st half 2nd half splits? google is surprising yielding very little
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...hot_finder.cgi

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