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12-06-2010 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bramsterdam
Noob question:

When do players choose to use the glass when shooting and when will they prefer throwing it in directly?
GOAT question
12-06-2010 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bramsterdam
Noob question:

When do players choose to use the glass when shooting and when will they prefer throwing it in directly?
Ha this is awesome. Basically it depends on how close you are and your angle to the hoop! The closer you are to the basket and to something like a 45 degree angle (rough guess, basically not dead on and not on the baseline) = more likely to bank it, at least until the point that you can just dunk it. Thanks for writing in!
12-06-2010 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by alexstat
I understand that they have no real big man in the paint and no amout of potential or prob will overcome that disadvatage in a 7 game series. There are Eastern Teams alone that will abuse this prob. (Orl and Bos)
So what odds would you currently give them to win the ship? How many teams would you put in front of them?

I ask because betting exchanges still have them as THE favorite, with people willing to put money on both sides. Although the lakers are very close.

You really think your info is that much better then everyone elses?
12-06-2010 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by alexstat
I understand that they have no real big man in the paint and no amout of potential or prob will overcome that disadvatage in a 7 game series. There are Eastern Teams alone that will abuse this prob. (Orl and Bos)
even before their potential comes through they've already crushed Orlando. Having an interior presence is nice and all, but so is having the two best guards in the game.
12-06-2010 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NozeCandy
Ha this is awesome. Basically it depends on how close you are and your angle to the hoop! The closer you are to the basket and to something like a 45 degree angle (rough guess, basically not dead on and not on the baseline) = more likely to bank it, at least until the point that you can just dunk it. Thanks for writing in!
Ty, started to wonder when watching heat - bucks and the commentator said Bosh had an excellent bank shot or something
12-06-2010 , 09:57 PM
If you need bank shot you send Tim Duncan because he is expert.
12-06-2010 , 09:59 PM
Fwiw, I don't think NBA players use the glass enough when shooting.
12-06-2010 , 10:05 PM
And who said TZ wasn't friendly to newcomers
12-06-2010 , 10:15 PM
The 3 guys who immediately come to mind when talking about using the glass are:

1) Tim Duncan LDO. It's his signature shot. Generally when you see a bank shot from anyone it'll be from right here and in a similar situation (either with someone facing up in the post or doing a pullup)



2) Dwight Howard uses his bank shot extensively this year. It looks a lot like Duncan's.

3) Dirk will tend to use the glass around that area but he also uses it in a fadeaway like so -

12-06-2010 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
Fwiw, I don't think NBA players use the glass enough when shooting.
This is a good point. I don't think they take enough pull up (mid range) jumpers either, when on the drive. They'll either go to the rim and take a bad contested shot, or jump in the air to pass, and get called for a charge. Some players use a floater, but not too many are good at it.
12-06-2010 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SchererBoy
This is a good point. I don't think they take enough pull up (mid range) jumpers either, when on the drive. They'll either go to the rim and take a bad contested shot, or jump in the air to pass, and get called for a charge. Some players use a floater, but not too many are good at it.
don't let bobbo hear u say that
12-06-2010 , 10:22 PM
That's because most players are not so good at taking pull up mid range jumpers that it's a better decision than driving.
12-06-2010 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by GooseHinson
So what odds would you currently give them to win the ship? How many teams would you put in front of them?

I ask because betting exchanges still have them as THE favorite, with people willing to put money on both sides. Although the lakers are very close.

You really think your info is that much better then everyone elses?
I'm not gonna go into odds atm but I will say that LAL, SA, and BOS are the teams that I put in front of them. And I think the gap from 3rd to 4th is large. Sure Miami blew out Orl in an early season game but I don't expect that to happen again in the playoffs should they meet.

I can't remember a team to ship it without big men. Miami has no back up center or starter to crush the boards. Maybe pat trades for a center and that would solve the issue but as is they clearly are not the fav imo.

And it's not that my info is greater since vegas is never wrong. Just a bold prediction I guess.
12-06-2010 , 10:37 PM
It's a lot harder to get fouled pulling up for a mid range J
12-06-2010 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by alexstat
I'm not gonna go into odds atm but I will say that LAL, SA, and BOS are the teams that I put in front of them. And I think the gap from 3rd to 4th is large. Sure Miami blew out Orl in an early season game but I don't expect that to happen again in the playoffs should they meet.

I can't remember a team to ship it without big men. Miami has no back up center or starter to crush the boards. Maybe pat trades for a center and that would solve the issue but as is they clearly are not the fav imo.

And it's not that my info is greater since vegas is never wrong. Just a bold prediction I guess.
Who were the big men on the Jordan Bulls?

Bill Wellington and Luc Longley?
12-06-2010 , 10:45 PM
It's difficult for any shot in the low post, contested or not, to be worse than a pull-up midrange shot.
12-06-2010 , 10:49 PM
wade seems to use the glass real well on midrange jumpers
12-06-2010 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by alexstat
I'm not gonna go into odds atm but I will say that LAL, SA, and BOS are the teams that I put in front of them. And I think the gap from 3rd to 4th is large. Sure Miami blew out Orl in an early season game but I don't expect that to happen again in the playoffs should they meet.

I can't remember a team to ship it without big men. Miami has no back up center or starter to crush the boards. Maybe pat trades for a center and that would solve the issue but as is they clearly are not the fav imo.

And it's not that my info is greater since vegas is never wrong. Just a bold prediction I guess.
Just so you know then, you should hit up a betting exchange as you can get 4x the price for the spurs as you can for the heat, and 2x the price for celtics.

You can't remember a team to ship without big men? How bout the bulls all those years, I mean sure they had some average big men, but it's pretty much the same situation. (Non-Rodman years I guess)

Seems like another of these "bold" outlandish predictions that never gets money put on it, and is never remembered unless the poster was right. In which case he brings it up and says "i told you so".
12-06-2010 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GeoffRas22
wade seems to use the glass real well on midrange jumpers
iirc wade doesn't do anything real well on midrange jumpers
12-06-2010 , 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack of Arcades
iirc wade doesn't do anything real well on midrange jumpers
Your memory must be foggy. He draws fouls pretty good on them.
12-06-2010 , 10:58 PM
right, he falls down real good
12-06-2010 , 11:01 PM
Falls down, jumps into defenders, brings his arms up into a defenders arms when guarded too closely. All valuable skills in today's NBA.
12-06-2010 , 11:02 PM
12-06-2010 , 11:04 PM
Well, there's an actual reason to talk about the Blazers.
12-06-2010 , 11:14 PM
back to the bank shot discussion - i don't think anyone answered bramsterdam's question, at least not fully, and it's something i'm curious about as well. why would someone use a bank shot over a non-bank shot?

i'm thinking particularly of tim duncan, and i'll repost the video from above. he's clearly very good at bank shots and takes a lot of them. but why are they better shots for him than straight in? do they give you a larger margin of error or something? i mean, he takes this kind of shot A LOT.



and if there is a hard-and-fast reason why they are better shots in certain situations, then why aren't more players taking them?

      
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