everyone here sucks except anatta who is awesome

Except Boozer is well below career efficiency at career high USG, whereas Bosh is basically at career efficiency well below peak usage, so there are reasons to think that Bosh could shoulder more offense more easily than could Boozer.

Just as we give ALL of the credit to Labron and NONE to Wade? I think we can all agree that whoever the Bulls 2nd best player this year has been (Deng I assume), he's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy less good than Wade.

There's definitely a "is x good" and "has played x good" point of contention that arises from time to time ITT. There's a reason the post got a few +1's right away.

its funny to me that you say that and not even consider why it could be flawed in some ways (i.e comparing fisher to lbj), but could have SOME value in other ways (i.e comparing lbj to rose)

both are the most valuable players on their team, and thus have the biggest impact on their teams.

now imo it would be insincere to look at both teams on court only bc of your fisher counter, if LBJ has much better teammates then its not fair

but i mean wouldnt that show in the off court side? if lebrons teammates are so much better than roses that we should just ignore the on court splits, then why isnt it showing in lebrons off court splits? and if rose's teammates are so much worse why isn't that showing in his off court splits?

You guys need to remember that when Lebron is off the court, Bosh and Wade have pretty much ALWAYS both been on the court. While I agree Geoff might be extrapolating too much from the On/Off stuff, I do think that's pretty damn noteworthy.

Why do you think Bosh could be the same exact player as the 3rd option? It's not saying James is the problem, it's saying changing from the 1st to 3rd option ALWAYS makes you much more of a role player than you were before.

cant wait to go jmill on the last few weeks of tzing after the heat steamroll the playoffs.

link to this?

http://basketballvalue.com/teamunits...-2011&team=MIA

just think about the heat rotation

-starters start the game

-wade/bosh come out around ~4 minute mark, lbj stays on with scrubs

-sometimes wade/bosh start Q w/o lbj, sometimes rotation that ended 1st stays on

-lbj comes back in after ~4-6 min rest, big 3 finish 2nd

rinse and repeat for 3rd/4th but spo obviously adjusts for how the games going (blowouts hell sit more, closes games like the laker game lbj mite play more)

Looking over it quickly it seems like there's been less than 200(out of over 3000) minutes this year where Lebron was off the court and Bosh and Wade weren't on together.

Well.. at least their honest.

I don't see how labron has been off the court 3000 minutes. According to NBA.com he has missed two games, and he misses 9.4 MPG. 9.4*64 + 96 = 697.6.

The Miami Heat have played 3168 minutes of basketball this year.

we have seen 60+ games with this years heat team what the opinion of Spo as a coach? I think he needs to stop speaking about regular season games as if they are the apocalypse but I cant speak as a coach.

I agree to an extent, but part of that is the media treating every loss as an apocalypse as well.

The players were the ones crying. The apocalypse lives in their eyes. lol

The players weren't actually crying, #cmonson (thanks KC). It was Coach Assani mildly trolling the media and it got out of hand.

I think the way I worded it may be hard to interpret, what I mean is to show that's it's very very rare for Lebron to be off the court and for Wade and Bosh to not BOTH be ON the court.

Lebron has 2400 minutes, and when he's off it's mainly been Bosh and Wade together against 2nd units and playing badly because the GOAT isn't on the court

Nah they were definitely crying. Anything that came after that was damage control.

they weren't actually crying expect that they were actually crying.

+1

maybe blubbering better describes it

read this OOT. Enjoy, LOL


The skill level for the average 6'6" elite athlete in the NBA is pretty damn low. If a 16 yr old Iguodala/Carter/Jordan body type devoted 5 years of his life to training with the best handling coaches, shooting coaches, etc., he would EASILY make the NBA. There are countless sub 6' players out there who lack the height and/or athleticism to sniff an NBA tryout but perform every skill imaginable at a higher level than the NBA guys who rely primarily on their physical gifts.

Not sure whether you are completely overestimating the number of 6'6"+ players in the NBA who would still be considered great athletes if merely 6' tall (not many), or overrating the amount of skill required to play in the NBA for the ones who are tall and legitimately athletic. The majority of the American players in the league grow up playing games, not developing skills. Five years of full days devoted to intelligent training (obviously would not go to college) with the best coaches and trainers in the world would result in a 6'6" elite athlete with more skill than 90% of the 6'6" elite athletes who have ever played in the NBA.

Replace every instance of "NBA" with "Division 1 College" and I agree with that.