Cavs won 2/4 quarters last night.

/Celtics fans

uhhhh

lebron has a 32.8PER with .621TS this playoffs. hes far from over the hill.

ofc, usually when these guys decline, its off a cliff and that may happen soon. but it sure hasnt yet.

Michael’s stats fell decently hard between his last two seasons with the bulls at 33/34 years old. KG fell off pretty bad at 37, Malone 38 but slower, Duncan was 38. So it’s possible lebron has a few more years but he’s getting the age where even the super elite of this era started to fade from top 3 player to top 20. Obviously, Kobe, Shaq, wade and others stats fell even sooner and harder due to knees or conditioning. Lebron is a marvel but I think he has 3 years max at near this level and will see if he can become a super role player or just fade into irrelevancy .

Lebron won't ever fall off a cliff unless he doesn't care anymore, he has too much advantages on the court to fall off. A Lebron decline is him going from a top 3 player in the game to a top 20 player & still an allstar & that is a 40 year old Lebron.

This sounds insane, and yet there is no way Lebron could be a worse actor than Dwayne Johnson.

I’m as big of a lebron fan as anyone, but it’s basically impossible to envision a scenario where he is anywhere near as good of an actor as The Rock.

lol

He is a great comedic actor - I thought he was really, really good in Trainwreck.

He was in an episode of "Survivor's Remorse", a show on Starz that he has a EP credit for.

Tough to compete with the Rock's work in "Ballers" though.

Haters in the building....

The 2008 Celtics went to seven games in their first two playoff series without winning a road game and won one road game in each of the next two rounds.

The narrative has been that superstars win out over an ensemble of good players in the playoffs. The Celtics threaten that narrative and create cognitive dissonance. People can deal with that by insisting that the narrative will hold out and the Cavs will win, they can change their evaluation of the Celtics players and say that Horford is better than people say and that guys like Tatum and Brown are actually budding superstars, or they an say that the narrative is false and you don't need that transcendent player with sidekick stars to make the Finals and have a legitimate chance of titling.

I'd pick the Celtics roster to have more future All-Star appearances the the Bucks roster.

Wondering if anyone in this thread is dumb enough to agree with Melo that he is better than Korver.

I think LeBron's goal is to smash Kareem's record for All-Star nods. Maybe he will end his career like Old Man Kobe with a few seasons where he has the counting stats and the popularity to get some undeserved appearances.

I'd bet on LeBron being a worse actor than John Cena.

Would he be a better franchise owner than Michael Jordan?

I'm pretty sure lebron doesn't get up early in the morning for his ice bath to beat Kareem's all star invitations

Is GS really 75% in game 6, down 3-2? I'm not entirely sure, and I really like their team. But maybe that's selling the Rockets a touch short.

Probably more like 77-78%

Around a true line of -350...They were -8.5/365ish on tuesday

Actor being used liberally here.

I still don't get that -8.5 line in comparison to the -7.5 one for g3, without Iggy and the way both teams play after they win/lose

Well they did win by 40pts. That tends to influence some things.

Most smart posters seem to think NBA players of today would mop the floor with older players. Can someone explain why? I look at guys like Duncan and Dirk. At the beginning of their careers they were competing with plenty of guys from the 1980s, but it's not as if they fell off a cliff in the 2010s. In fact they aged really well and were extremely effective against modern players. They were stars but why should it be any different on the whole? There are lots of players who we can view as bridges to compare relative performance over time, and I think people are greatly exaggerating the differences. I'm sure teams are smarter now with strategy, exercise, nutrition but are the players really that much better? Maybe it's a strawman but I think many smart posters believe the majority of players in the '80s couldn't hang today.

I think the old big men would feast on the players today down low

the top 50 all-time would do just fine today obv

you think Magic is gonna struggle or something because it was the 80s, wtf

No, that's my point. I think Magic would be just as dominant today. Again maybe this is just a strawman I'm creating, but I think people genuinely believe guys like Bird and Magic would be exposed.

Quoting like where the players were drafted or predicting future all star appearances or something to say the Celtics are better than we assumed is pretty dumb. I don't think anyone doubts the potential of this Celtics squad. But THIS SEASON, with two of their top 3 players having 3 seasons of experience between them, they are just not very good on paper. It's nothing short of amazing what is happening. I still cant believe they beat the Bucks tbh

Guys who loved the long two and would be inefficient in the current nba if they can’t hit a 3 would have a big problem in the current nba. Obviously many if not all of the all time greats would be fine it’s the lesser players that are likely better now since the number of teams has leveled but the pool of players internationally has grown expontentially on top of better strategies and better doctors/health regimes.

The Celtics are doing what I thought they could do. I've said in the past that they are good enough to not be drawing dead to win the title. I thought they were at least 40% to beat the Cavs.

The Celtics came into the playoffs underrated because people looked at them under-performing relative to their regular season performance in the past two playoffs. People underrated them because of the belief that superstars beat ensembles with a system in the playoffs.

the Bucks and Sixers didn't really have any playoff exp either and the Bucks have one of the biggest losers ever on their roster which helped. they've been fortunate to get here but it's not shocking to anyone that has watched them all year.

Plus we now have a pill that prevents contracting HIV.

I saw an ad on a bus stop with a 20-something age girl on it with the words "PLAY SAFE". lol

That would instantly add years to his playing career.