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05-29-2017 , 10:18 AM

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Ok thanks

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05-29-2017 , 10:29 AM

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Cinarocket

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Kobe is obviously on the same tier as Frank Ntikilina

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05-29-2017 , 10:56 AM

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Funny thing with Kobe vs LeBron talk with casual/kobe lovers, is that its hard to find one season where Kobe has been better than LeBron in his peak.

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05-29-2017 , 11:04 AM

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It's impossible to find a year where Kobe had a top 3 MVP season

Edit : ok I was wrong. In 2004 he definitely deserved to be 3rd behind TD and KG. That''s it

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05-29-2017 , 02:38 PM

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It seems to be impossible for anyone to speak intelligently about Kobe on either side.

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05-29-2017 , 02:39 PM

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With that said the Kobe haters come off significantly dumber on average

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05-29-2017 , 02:43 PM

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lol

pretty sure the ppl who see him as a rich man's DeMar DeRozan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ppl who think he has a legit claim to GOAT

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05-29-2017 , 07:42 PM

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Literally noone thinks he has a claim to GOAT. Maybe him I guess. The people who think he's better than LBJ have their GOAT, and aren't exactly open minded about the topic

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05-29-2017 , 07:44 PM

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Literally noone thinks he has a claim to GOAT. Maybe him I guess. The people who think he's better than LBJ have their GOAT

you should consider yourself very happy to never have entered r/nba or similar things

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05-29-2017 , 08:25 PM

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05-30-2017 , 05:43 AM

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Reddit NBA and Facebook comments are some of the worst things ever. I have a IRL friend who claims 90s basketball is the best ever. I never ever talk basketball with him, it's just too painful to go through. 1. MJ, 2. Kobe. Everything always comes back to 5 rings.

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05-30-2017 , 09:22 AM

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lol

pretty sure the ppl who see him as a rich man's DeMar DeRozan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ppl who think he has a legit claim to GOAT

A rich man's version of a superstar is pretty damn good

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05-30-2017 , 09:26 AM

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A rich man's version of a superstar is pretty damn good

Demar DeRozan - Super Star has a nice ring to it.

Might need to keep that around when David West - All Star retires soon.

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05-30-2017 , 10:28 AM

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49 TS% and negative VORP in 41 career playoff games, DDRSS

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05-30-2017 , 10:51 AM

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Thought I'd chip in with my personal top 10. Having seen some of the top ever players (Reggie, T-Mac, PP34, Chuck, Shaq, Kenny etc) having some of the worst lists, casual fans must be incredibly confused.

Few things. Russell and Wilt don't make it. Its way too hard to value them imo so I leave them out and someone can put them in between 5-20 and theyd be fine. Don't think they belong on any top 5 list though. I rate peak pretty high. The way I see it someone like Shaq has a peak of 4/5 years which is so high, gives a higher ring equity than anyone not named MJ/LBJ. Even though it accounts for 20% of his career (most stars is around 50% unless your name is Lebron and its 90%), it was so damn elite, just overrides a lot of guys.

Honorable mentions : Kobe, O.Robinson, D.Robinson, Steph, Durant, Stockton, Malone.

Tier 1
1A. Michael Jordan
1B. LeBron James

Tier2
3. Shaquille O'Neal
4. Magic Johnson
5. Kareem
6. Larry Bird
7. Tim Duncan
8. Hakeem

Tier 3
9. Kevin Garnett
10. Dirk

Think you can mash up tier 2 a lot and wouldn't bother me. Tier 3 would extend with Oscar>Kobe>M.Malone>Durant or something like that. Durant prob goes 11 if he rings, stays outside of 15 if he doesnt, and obviously goes 1. LeBron, 2. Jordan if LeBron rings.

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Perfect realistic "super team" imo

Wall
Klay
Lebron
Ibaka
M.Gasol

well Ill say it. lol bird. I put all 4 of those guys ahead of him.

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05-30-2017 , 11:28 AM

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Bird and Dirk both overrated there, especially Dirk.

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05-30-2017 , 11:29 AM

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Overrated huh? Grading absolute basketball talent Bird wins by a landslide. Wasn't athletic, couldn't jump, wasn't fast, yet dominated everyone he faced.

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05-30-2017 , 11:29 AM

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Wilt and Russell could play today

for such a physical sport where size/speed/jumping ability is so important, it's crazy that that is probably true. how many football players from the 60's could play in the NFL today if they were time warped? I'm guessing none.

but Wilt was a physical force far ahead of time. I'm surprised he is still so historically underrated, you'd think the #stats era would treat him better. he has a strong claim as GOAT ahead of MJ or Lebron

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05-30-2017 , 11:31 AM

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Bird and Dirk both overrated there, especially Dirk.

dirk>bird

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05-30-2017 , 11:31 AM

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Well if Russell and Wilt played today are they allowed to eat the same hormone induced foods, take supplements and workout? Or do they just have to show up straight from the 60's?

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05-30-2017 , 11:33 AM

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Well if Russell and Wilt played today are they allowed to eat the same hormone induced foods, take supplements and workout? Or do they just have to show up straight from the 60's?

bolded. otherwise you are basically arguing about genetics / what if scenarios you can't realistically even ponder

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05-30-2017 , 11:45 AM

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dirk>bird

Isn't Bird just a better rebounding/passing Dirk?

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05-30-2017 , 11:51 AM

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Bird and Dirk both overrated there, especially Dirk.

love dirk but that's for sure true. If he wasn't such a likeable Euro with a nice story he'd be nowhere near top 20 OAT discussions

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05-30-2017 , 11:57 AM

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dirk>bird

How kyut

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05-30-2017 , 12:07 PM

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Is the consensus still that Anthony Davis > Bird?

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