Who is the best creator CP has ever played with? Jamal Crawford?

If he had any sort of value he'd be gone by now. They've made it no secret they've been trying to punt him for the last 8 months.

He needs to be on the right squad. Most teams don't want to clog the paint anymore with a back to the basket big. I think he could be a decent replacement for Z Bo especially if Okafor can commit some to D. The problem is he doesn't fit in with many current teams and where the league is going but he's definitely not a total waste just not in the right era.

Hard to know when he spends 19 of every 24 seconds dribbling.

Jamal Crawford totally one of those guys that current and former players love with stuff like, "If you're having trouble getting the ball in the hole in the clutch, he'll get you a shot" or "Look out when he heats up" or other similar gibberish. Meanwhile isn't he like one of the worst in the league at clutch shooting?

Im living for the Lou Williams/Jamal Crawford backcourt

Draymond says hi.

The thing is tho, I think he has committed to try to play defense. His biggest issue is being to do it well is that he lacks the lateral quickness and general athleticism to be able to defend pnr's (which teams just put him in pretty much every possession he was on the court to exploit him) but also he doesn't seem to process information quick enough on the court to see what's going on around him and make good defensive decisions about where he should be positioned during a possession. He always ends up being a step or two behind. And obv he's a trash rebounder, the sort of thing that makes someone like Kanter who is a poor defender have some value.

HAAAA nice save!

Eric Bledsoe

Yeah I don't think it's effort. Okafor is elite stupid.

Atlanta is blacker and warmer .

Hasn't CP hit a wall 11 years in a row? When is he going to turn it up in the post season? Maybe he just needed to be paired with an MVP level point guard to reach above replacement level in actual results.

I'm just welcoming everybody in LA being terrible but the dodgers.

It doesn't snow in Houston.

Cp3's playoff stats are great. Very close to what his great regular season stats are.

He's just never been on a great squad and even when the Clippers have been good they're repeatedly dealt with serious injuries in the playoffs. Similarly they're in the same conference as the Spurs and Warriors so it's going to be tough to make it to the finals unless things bounce well.

Don't forget he played for Vinny Del for a few years and then Rivers who we know is overrated.

Blake always gets hurt. Deandre is limited. Crawford is AIDs in the playoffs.

I'm OK with CP3, never really liked Harden, but damn I'm excited to see how that team works out next season.

Lol at wooderson bringing more aids by hating in this deal. The Houston approach is a lot better than the lol Boston method of accumulating assets and never getting anywhere. This is awesome for the NBA and most teams should make moves like this instead of waiting for kd and Steph to retire. It's almost never a mistake to give huge money to top players. This is nothing like the Ortiz deal or arod.

Boston is in much better shape than Houston. Thats a clown post.

For starters, Boston isn't going to be paying Chris Paul $41 million per year for ages 33-37.

But they will be paying 30M for IT2 and his league-worst defense.

Nobody even saying he should have won a title. Putting him in a class of one of the best pgs ever or perennially a top 5 league player and never gotten to a conference finals, that is very damning on him. Sure all those things are factors but he has never once gotten past the second round. You might not be able to lay blame on a top MLB or NFL player for that but a guy twelve years in to his NBA career? I don't even no of any comps? What top 25-40 guy in the modern era never once managed to reach a conference finals? And being a point guard?

He doesn't deserve all the blame. It's insane the clippers have never gotten to the WCF since he has been there. I think he deserves a significant portion of the blame for that.

Maybe New Orleans has a knack for drafting super talented players who never get to a conference final. It's not like people are saying Paul is a top 30 player of a top 100 all time. You have people saying he is the greatest pg of all time and a top 5 player now. It is impossible to put him in that air when he has been on such disappointing teams in the playoffs. That his numbers are pretty much the same in the playoffs is probably part of the problem. The playoffs are not just an extension of the regular season. Should his numbers be better? Worse? Don't know but they should be different and reflect the reality of a team in the playoffs. I suspect his personality doesn't benefit a team much in the playoffs. You have to be able to push your teammates and not alienate them.

It's not like there have been 2-3 super teams in the WC for the last six years that blocked him from getting to a conference finals.

Maybe everything will change in Houston, we shall see. To be honest though, I haven't even factored in Dantoni who is one of my least favorite "winning" coaches ever.

What year should he have reached the conference finals?

His advanced playoff stats are off the charts. Blake's/Jordan have not been good on top of injuries.

They lost by 7 in game 7 at home to the Spurs in 2015, I think it's as close as he's gotten. He had a pretty good game 7 as well but probably didn't take enough shots.

2014 he lost game 6 to the Thunder and again he played well but it wasn't enough.

I agree with a lot you have said; maybe he shouldn't have tied his success to Griffin/Jordan/Crawford/Reddick/Rivers.

I dont think CP3 is the greatest pg ever whatsoever. Hes never been out of the 2nd round of the playoffs or even lost in the playoffs to the west conference champs. Hes overrated around here for sure. Hes been on teams with enough talent that if he was the greatest to ever play a position he would of at least had more success in the postseason. Not to say hes not a really good player and easily the best short guy of the era.

That said I'd still take him if im the rockets. Harden puts them in the top 3-4 teams in the west conf just by being so skilled. Adding Cp3 is going to make them a better team. When your already in the top 5-7 teams in the nba with players in there prime you cant just go "well the warriors and LBJ will never win". Things happen through the season you never know how good your guys will mesh this puts them as a top 4 team for sure. Hardens so good he makes you a threat for west conf finals every year so it just makes sense to get CP3 when hes available.

There's a far better argument against CP3 being the greatest PG ever than all this horrible, irrational, arbitrary "he never did x" rubbish that completely ignores context, situation and what actually happened each time, and it only takes three words:

"Steph Curry exists"

Warmer than Houston? Are you high?

Who are the other GOAT PGs--please don't mention Isiah Thomas.

Magic-had a stacked deck where he played with Kareem and another #1 pick in Worthy.
Stockton-always good but didn't have success in the playoffs till mid 30s. Never won it all even with very good teams because of Jordan.
Nash-never amazing success but never had a crazy squad, didn't play D--never made the finals; unlucky as well.
Curry-great talent but surrounded by crazy talent--doesn't play D.
Kidd-made the finals twice but never had ridiculous stats--great D.
Gary Payton--made the finals as lead dog with Kemp; eventually won a title as a 10th wheel
Parker-not sure if he's on this list but played with a stacked squad

A lot of the all time great PGs haven't had tremendous success and the ones who have played with GOATish squads like Magic and Curry.

I think others have mentioned that unless you're an all time great wing (Jordan/Lebron/Bird/Kobe/Wade) or have an all time great Center (Shaq/Kareem/Duncan/Hakeem/Robinson/Moses/etc.), PG is a nice thing to have been hasn't lead to dominance in the NBA. Great PGs themselves don't dominate.