Don't be hating that Darko passes like Webber.

Johnny Flynn over Steph is completely defensible, he already drafted Rubio you see.

sad lack of PHIL in the GM evaluations

butthurt Bulls fan itt

Knicks should be offering assets to take Staps, not asking for them.

the grimey rumours are that they offered Noah to teams to take Staps

A lot of underrating of Butler and Staps itt, particularly of Staps by a vast amount. Dude is a 7'3 wing who is an amazing rim protector and super young, LOL at his shooting not being good enough to be a top option and lol at failing to acknowledge the fact that he can get off a +ev shot no matter what in any situation and how valuable that is.

yeah, Staps doesn't need to be Dirk to be perfectly fine as the best player on your team, he's already a very good defender at 21

If he was an amazing rim protector he would be.

Staps is prob a dog to play 15k minutes.

Guys like Staps don't get traded. The Knicks are joke.

clown take - your Knicks hate makes you stupid.

he's played ~4200 mins in 2 seasons (http://www.basketball-reference.com/...porzikr01.html) with no appreciable long term injuries - and was sat the last half dozen games this year for tanking purposes.

for Embiid your dig wouldn't be ridiculous, for Staps - just lol.

....lol?

the frigid takes are abounding and astounding tonight

So he needs to avg 2k for 6 more years. I suspect he'll Yao out before then.

I'm not sure how many of you actually watched him play this year but he wasn't good on defense and he wasn't good overall. He didn't show any real improvement on his rookie season. That's concerning.

Granted Knicks were a tire fire but KP has developed bad habits and isn't learning how to actually play.

Well, look, no one can predict the future precisely, so, of course, he (or any other player) could be out of the league after G1 of next season.

But if you really want to think about whether KP is likely to last another 5/6 seasons in the league you can do several things (separately or together). (i) look at guys at, let's say at least 7', or 7'2"- or wherever you like to draw the line - and look at their career lengths, (i)(a) try to do (i) but factoring in usage; (ii) do something similar, but trying to account for 'body type' - where that's obviously an inexact, but real, thing. A twist on that would be to try to estimate if the roles that a player in your categories fills now are similar to historical precedents or not (eg in terms of likely contact).

For me, (((eye-test))), KP is a completely different phenotype from Yao, and probably will be used over his career in a completely different way (given the importance of the 3p shot, low EV accorded to posting up, etc).

I literally see nothing to think that KP won't - baring freak events - be in the league as long as Kareem, Smits, etc.

Wallace/Hollinger are low-key about as bad as Doc with some of their moves. They have mortgaged so much of their future for the chance at getting crushed in the playoffs... not a fan of their direction at all.

Olshey, just no.

Too early for 2. Thibs?

Would Boston have said no to KP and unprotected 2018 first for #1 pick before the Philly trade? Kinda feel like they would have. Makes me sad we didn't just do that and take Lonzo.

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/st...19326812356608

Oh boy

ding ding ding ... we have a winner

Yeah - so I did watch a lot of reg season knicks until it was into have-to-tank-f-me-we-wont-tank-cos-pride-time

And your take is completely wrong. He did improve, his stats were up, he had to contend with poisonous Derrick Rose as a non-supplier PG on offense and as a bull-fighter on defence - which makes it impossible for the 4/5.

Also, he had an excellent (stats wise - medium team results wise) first couple of months and then picked up an Achilles problem from which the team didn't let him recover properly.



So, yes, not concerning.

I can't really envision a scenario where that makes sense for Denver.

I thing Ainge says yes because he seems to have a hard-on for a couple of bigs in the 2018 draft and would like multiple shots at a top five pick next summer.

paging Seadood