NBA Offseason Thread 2017 - Page 28 - Sporting Events and Fantasy Sports

I would normally take action with you MS, however I'm worried I'd be conflicted if by the off chance both are fighting for the last spot in 10 months.

06-23-2017 , 01:28 AM

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Contenders? you have ptsd my man, no way Wolves miss now.

The playoffs?

I'm 34 and i was 20 during the wolves last playoff game.

06-23-2017 , 01:35 AM

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I'm 31 and I was a senior in high school.

06-23-2017 , 01:53 AM

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As a lifelong WILves fan (and I'm sure everyone in the WILves thread agrees), who gives a ****? Butler is immediately the best player we've had in the post-Garnett era, we're immediately contenders for ending the longest playoff drought in the league, and we'll be fun as hell. Plus wtf did we even give up? A solid role player who tore his ACL, and old rookie PG who can't shoot (even from the FT line) and we moved down 9 spots in the first round? There is absolutely zero downside here.

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Yup, well done wolves. LOL bulls

This, this, this. Butler is legitimately one of the best wings in the league and still in his prime. The fit isn't perfect but he immediately makes the Wolves better. Rubio, Wiggins, Butler, Towns is a fun core to build around.

Also, Dunn sucks. He's a great athlete and he may be as good as Avery Bradley someday...if he can ever learn to do something good offensively and not turn the ball over.

06-23-2017 , 02:03 AM

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Minny stole JB imo .... top 15 player obtained for a few average pieces that don't move the needle.

So jealous tbh

06-23-2017 , 02:07 AM

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Also, Dunn sucks. He's a great athlete and he may be as good as Avery Bradley someday...if he can ever learn to do something good offensively and not turn the ball over.

He sucks on offense but is super awesome already on defense. Still, guards like that are only useful in basically perfect circumstances.

06-23-2017 , 02:11 AM

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Durant > steph > dray > klay > butler

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06-23-2017 , 02:12 AM

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He sucks on offense but is super awesome already on defense. Still, guards like that are only useful in basically perfect circumstances.

People are sleeping hard on dunn. It is hard to defend him but I always go with my gut

It's like Melvin Gordon's trash rookie year then he's an all pro like he's supposed to and everyone forgets they hated

06-23-2017 , 02:23 AM

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He sucks on offense but is super awesome already on defense. Still, guards like that are only useful in basically perfect circumstances.

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His turnover concerns were an issue in college, and he's 23. He has great athleticism, but his vision and shooting are also not great. It's just not likely that he's all of a sudden going to be a super productive offensive player.

His ceiling looks like a worse version of Ricky Rubio, which isn't bad, but is super specialized and as JTM said, only really useful on certain teams.

I liked the draft for Dunn, and it's not like there's no hope, but I think he is an underdog to be a capable starting NBA pg.

06-23-2017 , 02:28 AM

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His turnover concerns were an issue in college, and he's 23. He has great athleticism, but his vision and shooting are also not great. It's just not likely that he's all of a sudden going to be a super productive offensive player.

His ceiling looks like what current Ricky Rubio is, which isn't bad, but is super specialized and as JTM said, only really useful on certain teams.

I liked the draft for Dunn, and it's not like there's no hope, but I think he is an underdog to be a capable starting NBA pg.

No way, drawing dead. Ricky is a super duper special playmaker and Dunn has no chance at all to be that. His passing is adequate for a PG, he has all kinds of grit and hustle and doesn't try to do too much but he can't get by anyone on the dribble and his shot is horribad.

He's basically exactly the player my hyper-mega-elite eyetest said he was the first time i saw him, as always.

06-23-2017 , 02:29 AM

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He can't shoot FTs and he's a PG. That's it, discussion over.

06-23-2017 , 02:33 AM

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dwade already opted in. reason: he wants the money.

Pretty good reason.

He has until the 27th to finalize and I'd be absolutely shocked if that's happened. More than likely told the bulls he plans to opt in - assuming jimmy butler really isn't going to be traded even though there's rumors at the time.

If he takes the money now that's fine but bulls still don't need to buy him out. If he doesn't wanna play on the rebuild he literally has the option to leave.

06-23-2017 , 02:35 AM

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sorry bro, I ninja edited. As soon as I saw it I knew I worded it wrong. you're absolutely right. His defense could be slightly better than Rubio's, but offensively he has no shot to be that value...and that's supposed to be valuable in this league? Just not going to happen imo.

06-23-2017 , 02:39 AM

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Bulls fan trying to justify this trade is pretty lol.

Big pgs develop older, but Dunn brings next to no value. Honestly doubt he's a for sure guy who you'd want to pick up his 3rd year option. LaVine is coming off a major injury(which helped the team play better) and is already eligible for an extension. Markannen is Ryan Anderson 2.0.

Butler is around the 10th best player in the league making 60% of the max for the next 2 years and they got another first too.

Any talk of Doncic equity is dumb as hell. Breaking Jimmys kneecaps would have increased that equity too, but it would still be better to actually try to maximize future assets while increasing Doncic equity.

There's not a single guy on the Bulls' boards that likes this, a very small minority think it would be okay without including 16, but it's almost entirely LOL Bulls.

06-23-2017 , 02:40 AM

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dunn doesn't appear to have any plus offensive skills. seems drawing dead to be a starter for a real team

06-23-2017 , 02:41 AM

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The point is that it's not just gravy to get more than breaking his kneecaps. They could have done better than 1 year of LaVines rookie contract and moving up 9 picks in the draft or whatever. I guarantee the Celtics offered more. Jae Crowder and a 2019 Celtics pick is better than what they got.

Agree with this post. Nothing wrong with trading Butler or bottoming out. The package makes no sense.

The Bulls' front office is a joke. They are almost surely going to try and playoff this year anyways, I anticipate them trading for Carmelo.

They would have been better off trading for pure trash from Cleveland and taking a few first-rounders that start years from now.

06-23-2017 , 02:43 AM

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dunn doesn't appear to have any plus offensive skills. seems drawing dead to be a starter for a real team

He has the ability to be a decent finisher at the rim. That's all I've got.

06-23-2017 , 02:46 AM

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I think he'll opt in. It's one year and the Bulls can afford to take on salary for a few years, so trading him for Deng or Crabbe or some other overpaid junk plus assets is standard. I don't expect the Bulls to do this because they are dumb.

06-23-2017 , 02:46 AM

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Ur just not woke bro

06-23-2017 , 02:54 AM

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Yeah, that's an interesting idea. Wade gets paid, the bulls get whatever assets, other team gets out of a bad contract.

Maybe like Lavine plus Wade for Deng and Ingram

06-23-2017 , 03:17 AM

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Now what do we do for four months

06-23-2017 , 03:20 AM

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Chips Ahoy

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I just found out the D league is now the G league. I had been seeing G and assuming typos.

I can't even remember the previous names. CBA when Isiah was commish and it went busto?