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08-01-2017 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by vinivici9586
i don't think it's a coincidence that miami was able to shine up 5 d league players into like 200 million in contracts right when lebron leaves since they're no longer getting a gun held to their head. with wade aging quickly, miami had a fundamentally flawed blueprint, and was a dumpster fire waiting to happen, but LBJ definitely added some kerosene on the way out since miami drafted shabazz napier with his intentions in mind and had to wait out free agency 10 days longer than durant or hayward made their teams wait, mostly so lee jenkins could write a letter.

my larger point was that curry and durant let the coaches coach, the GMs GM and other stars share part of the spotlight. if you're building a super team it's not just about having players who can pass, it's about having players who take other considerations into mind on and off the court. they're not passive aggressively tweeting teammates and signing 1 year contracts in perpetuity while asking their teammates to make 4 year commitments. lebron james is a great teammate if you're richard jefferson, not if you're a star.
no offense but this bunch of bs is probably more suited for the containment thread
08-01-2017 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Fallen Hero
no offense but this bunch of bs is probably more suited for the containment thread
Seems unfair since I brought up pure facts and not opinions like he angleshot to bring "just one" to the land.
08-01-2017 , 01:58 PM
A fine post imo
08-01-2017 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
jones had a lot of injuries and some fairly serious ones. maybe they took their toll


Didn't he have a 30 point, 4 block game vs the Cavs or something this year?

I know I keep stashing him in fantasy and it never really pans out cause of injury. But I also know he's capable of some crazy stat lines.

I'm pretty surprised no one took a flier.
08-01-2017 , 02:47 PM
I am not sure that the Warriors get better with LBJ over KD. Obviously, Cleveland gets worse.
08-01-2017 , 03:21 PM
LeBron for ANY PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE is an upgrade for the team that gets him and a downgrade for the Cavs
08-01-2017 , 03:43 PM
So if Wiggins does pan out he has a chance to be the highest paid player in NBA history I think

Two full maxes
08-01-2017 , 03:43 PM
Lebron for Curry is an obvious downgrade for the Warriors, Lebron for Durant probably is too, but at least it's debatable
08-01-2017 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TingsRgunagetGROSS
LeBron for ANY PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE is an upgrade for the team that gets him and a downgrade for the Cavs
Yup

As I said, amazing how he's still the most underrated player itl
08-01-2017 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Fallen Hero
Lebron for Curry is an obvious downgrade for the Warriors, Lebron for Durant probably is too, but at least it's debatable
Beat me to it. So much this.
08-01-2017 , 08:17 PM
Pelicans break up the superteam, sign Ian Clark to a 1 year deal.
08-01-2017 , 08:22 PM
I think Lebron for Durant it just comes down to who you think is better this year, whether Lebron has regressed enough for Durant to pass him. I don't think Lebron would have much trouble fitting into the system though.

Take Curry out and the system is gone. Lebron and Durant on the same team would obvously be pretty insane and would win the almost certainly ring anyway but there'd be lots of friction and they just wouldn't be as good at all. Also got Curry as capable of finding other superstar teammates and getting the Golden State system going again and being live to beat the LebronDurants. Maybe on the Spurs?
08-01-2017 , 08:46 PM
lebron and durant would fit fine. durant played with westbrook ffs.
08-01-2017 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
lebron and durant would fit fine. durant played with westbrook ffs.


I agree 100%. They would be downright filthy together.
08-01-2017 , 09:07 PM
Lebron and Durant would be fine together but the Warriors aren't the Warriors without Curry, and the Warriors are better than Lebron+Durant
08-01-2017 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Fallen Hero
Lebron and Durant would be fine together but the Warriors aren't the Warriors without Curry, and the Warriors are better than Lebron+Durant
This is confusing.

Do you mean current warriors > current warriors - curry + lebron or something else? The latter is definitely a different squad. I'm not really sure how much worse they would be though especially in the playoffs. Obvious they would be a much worse 3 point shooting team but likely much better defensive team. Not sure how the system would work--I guess you're assuming with Lebron dominating the ball it would make the Warriors much worse since their ball movement would be poor--I would say likely but not sure how much worse. I think Klay/Durant could easily make up for the 3 point deficit caused by Lebron -> Curry. I guess the question is a Durant/Lebron/Green front line work well vs the good teams in the NBA?
08-01-2017 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
lebron and durant would fit fine. durant played with westbrook ffs.
And they never won a title. They didn't 'fit fine' at all, the talent that OKC they should have been better if not for bad fit.

I agree that Lebron and Durant would still make it work because they are both so good, but they would def be <<< the sum of their parts.

Also, basically, what Fallen Hero said.
08-01-2017 , 09:55 PM
I'm on Team Curry/Klay/Durant/Dray/etc > Team LeBron/Klay/Durant/Dray/etc.

Both teams are obviously exceptional and probably the best in NBA history. Both would be huge favorites to smash through the playoffs and title every year.

But vs each other, if that were possible, I think the GSCurrys would take down the GSLeBrons. LeBron and Durant would fit fine, but when you take away Curry, you're basically trading away ball movement and 3's for LeBron 2's, which is not a good tradeoff.

And that's just for this year. Over the next 5 years, obv the GSCurrys >>> GSLeBrons.
08-01-2017 , 10:06 PM
Lol at saying LeBron would fit into the system. A LeBron team can only have 1 system. 4 guys standing around while lebron dribbles and hopefully passes it to them after barrelling into the pain and offensively fouling 3 people in the process.
08-01-2017 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Lol at saying LeBron would fit into the system. A LeBron team can only have 1 system. 4 guys standing around while lebron dribbles and hopefully passes it to them after barrelling into the pain and offensively fouling 3 people in the process.
Durant would fall in line, lest be on the receiving end of tweets like this "Stop trying to find a way to FIT-OUT and just FIT-IN. Be apart of something special! Just my thoughts"

Last edited by vinivici9586; 08-01-2017 at 10:14 PM. Reason: amazing he ever tried to deny it was about k love. just my thoughts
08-01-2017 , 10:20 PM
Draymond also brings a lot of what lebron can do on the defensive end, which is why curry fits better on that team
08-01-2017 , 10:24 PM
Curry's playoff slankage to LBJ's historically great postseason work should be considered.

Also, GSW defense becomes significantly better without Curry skipping around out there.
Klay's ability to guard 1s makes this even more true.

Klay/Iggy/LBJ/KD/Dray is so sick twitchy explosive switch everything w/hyper elite rim protection/rebounding/finishing/playmaking.

No question that line up is better than current Woyas.
08-01-2017 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by capone0
This is confusing.

Do you mean current warriors > current warriors - curry + lebron or something else? The latter is definitely a different squad. I'm not really sure how much worse they would be though especially in the playoffs. Obvious they would be a much worse 3 point shooting team but likely much better defensive team. Not sure how the system would work--I guess you're assuming with Lebron dominating the ball it would make the Warriors much worse since their ball movement would be poor--I would say likely but not sure how much worse. I think Klay/Durant could easily make up for the 3 point deficit caused by Lebron -> Curry. I guess the question is a Durant/Lebron/Green front line work well vs the good teams in the NBA?
I meant the warriors system revolves around Curry, and that a Lebron+Durant team would be something else entirely. Since the warriors system is probably the goat team, I'm gonna give them an edge over the superior individual talent of Lebron + Durant.

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Originally Posted by Banzai-
And they never won a title. They didn't 'fit fine' at all, the talent that OKC they should have been better if not for bad fit.
I don't think they had that much talent because RWB is not that good, he's like a very inefficient Lebron with negative defense
08-01-2017 , 10:30 PM
Before the 73-win Woyas the GOAT team was the 72-win Bulls, which is like a lol homeless man's version of the hypothetical Bronyas.
08-01-2017 , 10:32 PM
Issue is Bron doesn't go 100% during the regular season. No way they'd hit 70, and I can't imagine 73-74 wins.

      
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