They have low single digit equity with Lebron, factoring in injuries, etc. they have basically none without. I agree it extends their window as a "competitive" team, guess it depends on how much you value that (and Kyrie)

I don't think Bron okays a trade out if they still have their core this year.

I say trade Kyrie, Love, and convince LeBron to waive his no trade clause.

Burn it all to the ground, hoard assets, and tank for Luka Doncic.

no idea. thinking back though, people reported that "cavs players" told butler to duck cleveland. many people are saying it was kyrie so maybe there was something to that

edit: esp since minny was on his list

Sick, Manu's coming back. I had a gut feeling he would after the playoffs.

Pau back on a 3 year deal with the third partially guaranteed.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...-antonio-spurs

Looks like the Manu news may be a couple days old but I never saw it itt.

Eh, I think the story is more that firing Griffin and not getting George/Butler was what MADE Kyrie want to leave, not that this was some sort of masterplan.

Occam's Razor is that he was happy when the team was going to the finals 3 years in a row and giving him a max and ****, but now that the team is clearly falling apart and Lebron is going to leave he wants to be the first rat off the ship.

Bron has vacationed with Josh Kroenke a couple times, just sayin'

LeBron on the Nuggets would be pretty awesome.

What's a possible trade that could make it happen?

That's basically what Woj said on ESPN. That he didn't really think it had anything to do with playing with LeBron in a basketball sense or anything, just he sees the ship is sinking and he isn't really in a D Wade ride or die for Miami regardless type of situation.

Probably sick of how cryptic LeBron is about his future as well.

Also I think it is safe to say Ainge saw this coming. Probably told Hayward about it in the meeting.

Kyrie for IT/Crowder, just sayin'

Be good for business.

None.. He goes to Boston like every time if traded imo, and KC will finally be right about Cleveland/Boston.

trainingday.yup

Did he just constanza his way in?

That's how Mike Shanahan drafted Cutler too.

He actually talked to Jeff Fisher about him. True story.

Wall signs 4/170 extension, still 2 years left on current deal.

4th year is a PO.

I don't buy the story that Kyrie wants to bail before LeBron does. Where ever Kyrie gets thrown to will be a dumpster, or the top pieces given away will turn the team into Cavs 2011-2014. There's no Paul George type trade where he ends up on a contender.

Kyrie nearly averaged 30ppg in the finals and wants a bigger role... Its the disease of me, that's what Pat Riley said broke teams apart, and that's whats happening now.

I don't think Kyrie gets traded. He stays with Cleveland and gets over his emotional state of being.

In before Cavs trade him for Wiggins and this whole team blows up in 18.

Rose
Smiff
Labron
Melo
Love


The all TuT team

Murray
Gary Harris
Lebron
Millsap
Jokic

Lebron
Fultz
Covington
Simmons
Embiid

This really seems like the only realistic option.

Kyrie-Hardaway-???-Staps-Willy gonna be sick too

Kyrie saw what happened in Cleveland the first time and Miami. LeBron wasn't recruiting people to come to Cleveland and it was obvious the cowardly front running piece of **** was going to bolt to another super team again.

No one understands what a pathetic disgrace of a human being LeBron is like Kyrie. He held the cavs hostage to get TT and JR massive extensions to line the pockets of him and his agent. That and LeBron forcing the cavs to trade all their picks is why they have no ability to upgrade the roster. Then leloser blames Gilbert after he hamstrung the organization. That's what dirtbags with no integrity do. Type of insecure lowlife scum that would take personal shots at Charles Barkley after a professional critique.

LeBron is not only a massive loser but an absolutely putrid leader who dishes out blame when the team loses and takes all the credit when super star teammates save his legacy. Kyrie had enough--good for him.

here is the tl;dr version of the post

Did Lebron bang AJ's wife/GF/mom?