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07-15-2017 , 10:16 PM

#4176

Heroball

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Lol Jackson @ 8.

#RingerTakes

07-15-2017 , 10:21 PM

#4177

Krayz

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Ball should have 3-4 more assists but his teammates keep ****ing up/getting fouled

07-15-2017 , 10:23 PM

#4178

Krayz

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Kuzma called "AND-1" on a post up fade away air ball that wasn't called a foul. Where amazing happens

07-15-2017 , 10:23 PM

#4179

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When is Millsap close to top 20? You mean like he's close to a top 20 player in the L?

07-15-2017 , 10:25 PM

#4180

yellowfever

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Originally Posted by Heroball

Lol Jackson @ 8.

#RingerTakes

He went 4 in the draft and Fox,Isaac,DSJ, and Mitchell have all looked great. Him dropping a few spots to 8 isnt a crazy take at all.

07-15-2017 , 10:26 PM

#4181

DarkCheck

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Krayz

Ball should have 3-4 more assists but his teammates keep ****ing up/getting fouled

Ball is so sweet. I never been so excited to watch someone pass. It remind me of Jason Williams. 70 foot dime. Hesitation feed dude blew the layup.

07-15-2017 , 10:27 PM

#4182

Heroball

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Crazy, no. Wrong, yes.

07-15-2017 , 11:28 PM

#4183

JayTeeMe

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Originally Posted by ut2010

Bringing the Sacramento Kings old roster to NO.

Think of it like them finding a way to get Brow to Sacramento.

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Originally Posted by Moneyball16

Denver and Wolves are more lockish than Clippers and Jazz. I prob don't spot Clippers into my top 8.

Also I don't understand the summer league means nothing people. For rookies we only have like 30 games of college vs complete scrubs to go off of and everyone feels fine projecting based on that but 5 more recent games on NBA courts vs much better competition and people act like it means nothing. Gotta change up your rookie rankings after summer league. DSJ/Mitchell/JCollins and really the whole draft class relative to most years has to go up in people's minds.

Jonny Flynn was summer league MVP. So was Tyus Jones. I don't think it means very much at all.

07-15-2017 , 11:31 PM

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George Hill ranked in the 90th percentile in PnR "ball handler" offense, Rubio ranked in the 49th percentile on much fewer attempts. I'm guessing this gap is underrated because Rubio had guys who can pop, leaving open scoring opportunities, vs. Hill having Gobert at the rim.

Rubio took .4 pull-up 3's a game and shot 19%, Hill took 1.9 and shot 41%. That makes quite a difference in how they'll be defended, imo.

I'm having a hard time seeing how this doesn't make Gobert's job a lot tougher.

Rubio is hyper-mega-elite at passing to everyone but esp the roll man

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Originally Posted by Seadood228

Yeah Quin is pretty great, but I'm not sure what they can do about making Rubio a better shooter after all these years. My guess is every single player will get slightly more difficult looks all around.

That's not how playing with Rubio works. I am curious if Joe Ingles will be their leading scorer tho.

07-15-2017 , 11:31 PM

#4185

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayTeeMe

Think of it like them finding a way to get Brow to Sacramento.

Jonny Flynn was summer league MVP. So was Tyus Jones. I don't think it means very much at all.

lol, 5 star post

07-15-2017 , 11:32 PM

#4186

DodgerIrish

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Kyrie looked like a scrub in spurts of his first SL game. Getting stuffed and the like.

07-15-2017 , 11:56 PM

#4187

tarheeljks

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think the player tracking on nba.com pnr indicates only scoring efficiency. rubio being ~50% ile scoring isn't that surprising in that regard

07-16-2017 , 12:29 AM

#4188

westhoff

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Haha

07-16-2017 , 01:22 AM

#4189

Rei Ayanami

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Pretty cool article that goes into detail on Jokic's game.

I'm still taken aback by the efficiency numbers he put up as a second year guy. He was the best mid-range shooter and post-up player when factoring in attempts. This is on top of his GOAT passing skills.

All this in year 2 as a 21 year old.

God damn that first paragraph is in serious need of basic editing.

07-16-2017 , 01:23 AM

#4190

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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe

Rubio is hyper-mega-elite at passing to everyone but esp the roll man

That's not how playing with Rubio works. I am curious if Joe Ingles will be their leading scorer tho.

I think it is compared to George Hill on a team starved for creation but we'll see.

07-16-2017 , 02:21 AM

#4191

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Jackson looks like what was expected. If he learns to shoot he could be a good player at worst hes going to be a solid player. Hes not going to get talked about much when other guys have looked better and hes been just ok.

That ringer redraft had him at 8 which is seems about right at this point. Its still tempting to take Frank the mysterybox over him because the mysterybox could be something really good if it holds the right prize.

Not being a scorer in summer league seems pretty much guaranteed to be overlooked.

I agree with him probably being eightish in a redraft though.

07-16-2017 , 02:48 AM

#4192

Moneyball16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayTeeMe

Think of it like them finding a way to get Brow to Sacramento.

Jonny Flynn was summer league MVP. So was Tyus Jones. I don't think it means very much at all.

Jonny Flynn wasn't MVP that year, Blake was.

Also for Tyus he was much better last year than his rookie year and anyways I'm only talking about rookie players. Vets should crush and we already have an idea of how they stack up vs NBA players.

Only 3 rookies have won summer league MVP since 2009. Wall, Blake and Dame.

07-16-2017 , 02:52 AM

#4193

Moneyball16

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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

Kyrie looked like a scrub in spurts of his first SL game. Getting stuffed and the like.

Kyrie didn't play a single minute of summer league.

Also these one off examples are dumb as ****. It's not an argument. No one is arguing that everyone who looks great in summer league is a steal of a pick and all the guys that look like garbage are busts. But for rookies it definitely means something. Give me DSJ, Mitchell and John Collins vs Frank, Zach Collins and TJ Leaf any day.

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07-16-2017 , 05:53 AM

#4194

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Originally Posted by Moneyball16

Kyrie didn't play a single minute of summer league.

Also these one off examples are dumb as ****. It's not an argument. No one is arguing that everyone who looks great in summer league is a steal of a pick and all the guys that look like garbage are busts. But for rookies it definitely means something. Give me DSJ, Mitchell and John Collins vs Frank, Zach Collins and TJ Leaf any day.

I don't think anyone should be massively changing a redraft based on 3 Summer League games. That said, JJ at 8 was probably right to begin with. Lol JJ.

Also thank you for the bold. TZ could patent this technique lately.

07-16-2017 , 06:21 AM

#4195

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Looking bad is more meaningful than looking good imo, if that makes any sense.

07-16-2017 , 09:02 AM

#4196

All-inMcLovin

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Originally Posted by Moneyball16

I didn't know that Frank has looked like garbage in SL.

07-16-2017 , 09:30 AM

#4197

yellowfever

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Dont know why i cant embed tweets. Their was a QA with Bradley when asked toughest player to guard ITL he replied

Still lol at G.Hill over Kyrie

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07-16-2017 , 09:41 AM

#4198

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Toughest to guard doesn't mean the helping your team the most to win basketball games though.

That being said lol george hill

07-16-2017 , 09:46 AM

#4199

yellowfever

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Originally Posted by Cinarocket

Toughest to guard doesn't mean the helping your team the most to win basketball games though.

That being said lol george hill

A player who cant be guarded by anyone the planet and can average 30ppg in the finals while draining big shots helps wins basketball games.

Well I'm sure you could put Leonard on him to almost shut him down but thats not going to be optimal whatsoever with Lebron roaming freely.