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SAS declining in a large fashion by doing nothing this offseason IMO. Yet to see if they even keep Simmons.

OKC not gonna be too much better IMO.

Hou and Wolves the major improvements

07-04-2017 , 03:32 PM

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You guys are ridiculous with your blowing rosters up.

I love you ****ing aspies.

Folded QQ cold on button to raise and small 3-bet last night.

Flop came J-high and he had KK tho.

07-04-2017 , 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GeoffRas22

IMO the Hayward signing just highlights how big a mistake they made on draft night. Hayward/Crowder are wings and locked up for awhile, they also already have Jaylen Brown a young wing who I assume they're not giving up on. Meanwhile they have 1 PG (IT4) who is undersized, approaching 30, and on the last year of his deal. If they kept their pick and drafted Fultz/Ball they coulda had him backup IT next year and then feel fine about letting IT walk knowing they have their pg of the future. Now they're going to have to probably resign IT to a max, and there is a huge blockade at wing where their two young guys play

Ya, completely right, and it's not like that wasn't foreseeable as a likely outcome.

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Originally Posted by diskoteque

Wolves should go out and get crowder

Again, completely right, and pairing him with Jimmy is close to my pairing him with Harden last draft.

07-04-2017 , 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days

So Crowder off the bench or move him to the 4?

Come off the bench with Iguodala minutes until Brown or Tatum surpasses him. Maybe start him if they can't find a big who can be used the way the Warriors use Zaza.

But they will move him if he pouts about his role.

07-04-2017 , 03:37 PM

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How are the Jazz winning 50 games in the stacked West without Hayward? How are OKC not better with PG replacing Dipo? Some of the takes in this thread are scorching.

07-04-2017 , 03:37 PM

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His skill-set pales as a creator off the bench like Iggy.

Iggy is closer to Manu than Crowder.

You really waste Crowder as a bench player.

07-04-2017 , 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Christophersen

SAS declining in a large fashion by doing nothing this offseason IMO. Yet to see if they even keep Simmons.

OKC not gonna be too much better IMO.

Hou and Wolves the major improvements

You didn't have a market bro, all the wanting doesn't change it.

I assume plenty of action available to you if you want to fade them making the PO's tho.

07-04-2017 , 03:42 PM

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Getting phone spam that Haywood isn't necessarily going anywhere? The ****?

07-04-2017 , 03:43 PM

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07-04-2017 , 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GeoffRas22

He's 28yo coming off .234 ws/48 season
being in a hurry to dump him seems an overreaction to him being short

07-04-2017 , 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jwax13

How are the Jazz winning 50 games in the stacked West without Hayward? How are OKC not better with PG replacing Dipo? Some of the takes in this thread are scorching.

Agreed, those are two of the worst.

07-04-2017 , 03:45 PM

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Would love u45 Jazz, someone snap me up. Allons-y!

07-04-2017 , 03:46 PM

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Maybe Denver swoops in and gets Hayward now that the chips are on the table....

07-04-2017 , 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by th14

He's 28yo coming off .234 ws/48 season
being in a hurry to dump him seems an overreaction to him being short

The post you quoted was talking about letting him walk next year. Not dumping him.

If dumping him = not paying him a max, it's not an overreaction.

07-04-2017 , 03:47 PM

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This has a chance to the best lolAinge yet

07-04-2017 , 03:50 PM

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Why not draft Fultz; have Fultz backup IT and Bradley at the 1 and 2 for like 20 minutes a game total and see if he's the future and if he is at the 1 or 2; move on from IT. The log game at the 3 is still interesting for the Celts. Do they think the flexibility will help with the Warriors or Cavs?

07-04-2017 , 03:52 PM

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He's 28yo coming off .234 ws/48 season
being in a hurry to dump him seems an overreaction to him being short

Not in a hurry to dump him, but certainly would prefer to draft a 19 yo at same position with higher ceiling than resign him to a max draft another wing

07-04-2017 , 03:54 PM

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Rudy Gay wouldn't be that bad for the Jazz given their gaping scoring hole. Gotta have someone who can score and who are the options

07-04-2017 , 04:00 PM

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Yeah, not sure Crowder wants to come off the bench. Probably already pissed he is so underpaid.

He's the type of guy who you probably aren't going to get value for in return if you deal him.

And yeah they have way too many wings now. Fultz would've fit better.

07-04-2017 , 04:05 PM

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Celtics plan was to always sign/trade for a wing or two, so there's obviously some sort of plan in place, whatever it is...

They obviously weren't that into Fultz. We'll see how lol that take turns out to be.

07-04-2017 , 04:10 PM

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Clippers will still be pretty good btw. Gallo is great. Blake and Gallo both staying healthy may be a pipe dream though.

07-04-2017 , 04:13 PM

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The takeaway can only be that Ainge didn't care much for Fultz or Ball.

That can still be lolAinge ldo.

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Originally Posted by Wooders0n

Clippers will still be pretty good btw. Gallo is great. Blake and Gallo both staying healthy may be a pipe dream though.

Top 4 seed?

07-04-2017 , 04:16 PM

#2548

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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

The takeaway can only be that Ainge didn't care much for Fultz or Ball.

That can still be lolAinge ldo.

I feel like that's what I said, except I should have added Ball, too.

If Fultz and/or Ball are significantly better than Tatum + whatever they get on the Lakers/Kings/6ers pick, it's a whole-hearted lol Ainge.

07-04-2017 , 04:19 PM

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Sounds like Crawford to Lakers. Can't deny that LA lifestyle.

07-04-2017 , 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JMurder3

I don't disagree, exactly. But that also seems pretty results-oriented.

There was a consensus big drop between 1/2 and 3+ in this draft.

The Lakers pick figures to be quite good though in another talent-laden draft.

At this point, I find it hard to lolAinge or praise him regardless of how it turns out. Feel like he most likely made a small error.

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