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04-07-2023 , 01:01 AM
The only legitimate point to their road record is it's just indicative overall of Wiggins' absence and his sudden appearance is a real X factor.

Beyond that, who cares? The Warriors are suddenly going to be a shitty road team in the PO's bc why? They're playing with an off/on switch. You can talk about that if you want but there's a distinction. Dominant home team is the larger takeaway imo.

You really think they're incapable of stealing a game on the road (while holding serve)? It's like Miami but a higher class.
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04-07-2023 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
Let's start here, do you think there is a such thing as good and bad road teams? I really don't.

I just think there are good and bad teams and you rate the teams accordingly. Once you rate the teams, more or less that is how they would perform on the road.

Do you agree with that premise?



If they are a worse road team by a significant margin than last year, I'd have to believe they are significantly worse team overall.
Ok let me put this out here: I'm one of those guys who believes in momentum to a degree and that playing into a crowd or against (even for professionals) can effect their performance. Is it to a significant degree? Not usually, But you factor in traveling, not being at home-your literal home, and younger guys especially having a difficult time getting settled in visiting stadiums PLUS the variance you could see quite a difference.

I think with GS a lot of teams have smelled blood in the water earlier in the season and it's kind of snowballed and given everybody else (we've seen them lose to very weak teams on the road in games you know they want to win) a lot of confidence.

Is GS legit one of the worst teams on the road moreso than just being a mediocre team? Prob not completely , but theyre pretty bad this year. And the reason I believe that is the same reason I also believe they are one of the best teams at home and don't believe it's just "noise". Their home record isn't just variance either, I think they're special at home-it works both ways.

Last edited by VincentVega; 04-07-2023 at 01:25 AM. Reason: Misunderstood my own writing haha
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04-07-2023 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
The only legitimate point to their road record is it's just indicative overall of Wiggins' absence and his sudden appearance is a real X factor.

Beyond that, who cares? The Warriors are suddenly going to be a shitty road team in the PO's bc why? They're playing with an off/on switch. You can talk about that if you want but there's a distinction. Dominant home team is the larger takeaway imo.

You really think they're incapable of stealing a game on the road (while holding serve)? It's like Miami but a higher class.
I'll add to this that despite them having such a bad road record I firmly believe they can steal a road game because well, variance and Steph Curry
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04-07-2023 , 01:43 AM
If I thought they were a bad road team, it would just be because I thought they were overrated as a team overall. But I don't believe that....I have them 2nd in the West behind Suns in my fluid power rankings assuming Wiggy isn't totally mind****ed about whatever he had going on.

I dunno how else to state it, I don't think there are teams that are exceptionally bad on the road. Regular season is a joke now, they either A. not as good overall or B. just didnt give a **** + guys being in and out all year
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04-07-2023 , 11:24 AM
The fact that the Warriors opponents are shooting 40.3% from 3 in their road games and 33% in their home games seems like by far the main reason their road record sucks.
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04-07-2023 , 12:31 PM
That could be (in part) due to a lack of defensive effort.
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04-07-2023 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
That could be (in part) due to a lack of defensive effort.

This. You can’t just hand wave that away as variance and irrelevant stat
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04-07-2023 , 03:57 PM
Mavs sitting out kyrie and bunch of players for precautionary reasons lolol. Seems kyrie has infected this entire loser franchise . https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ruled-win-game
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04-07-2023 , 03:58 PM
Trivia: there’s never been a season when all 3 Texas teams missed the playoffs
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04-07-2023 , 04:29 PM
A big FU to Phx for resting all their guys.

A big FU to Sac for not resting all their guys (maybe they will, but listed doubtful at the moment).
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04-07-2023 , 04:58 PM
im sure kings are resting, GS is like -9.5
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04-07-2023 , 05:55 PM
GS -9.5 on the road is a 50/50 game.
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04-07-2023 , 06:50 PM
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Luka Doncic will sit out after the first quarter Friday

lol
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04-07-2023 , 06:53 PM
There is an alternate universe where Kyrie was on the helicopter and not Kobe

That seems like the optimal universe
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04-07-2023 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
Regardless of how it goes, it should be entertaining to watch.

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Originally Posted by Chilltown
Decent return for the Nets.

Luka is def gone.

Kyrie is a proven franchise killer.

Can't wait to watch it unfold!
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Originally Posted by DonkDonkDonkDonk
what are the mavs doing
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Originally Posted by Cinarocket
Dallas could have bad Brunson, Dinwiddie, DFS and kept their picks. Instead they have a weirdo, no depth nor defense and less picks
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
This seems like a terrible idea for the mavs but ok
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
I actually really like it. Kyrie is the scoring guard + excellent driver + secondary ballhandler who will fit perfectly with Luka. They needed more offense, who the heck cares about depth in the playoffs when you play a short rotation anyway.
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
This is a terrible opinion. Why are you a mod?

Kyrie is a team killer. He's gonna continue doing team killing Kyrie stuff.
chilltown 4 mod; many ppl are saying it, more and more all the time!

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Originally Posted by GTO2.0
Mavs are 9th in Offense Rating, which I think is their lowest in the Luka era. 24th in D rating and they trade their highest minute wing defender for Kyrie. Just don’t see how this helps them that much.

Not to mention Dinwiddie was their 2nd highest minutes guy overall and DFS was 3rd so they’re just overall thinner. On the plus side maybe this unleashes FRANK SMOKE
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Originally Posted by Banzai-
I think im higher than most in here about how much it improves them this year. Kyrie has been probably top 10-15 per minute this year, knows exactly how to play with someone like Luka from his Bron days and should *surely* manage 6 months at a new workplace not doing something ridiculous?

If he didn't want to be paid two hundred million dollars deal could almost be defensible imo. Does seem pretty disastrous given that though
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
Kyrie is in a contract year, he'll be just fine in Dallas where Luka will be getting him the easiest shots he's had since playing with The GOAT.
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Originally Posted by yellowfever
I love the trade for Dallas. You dont get to buy in on this kinda talent at such a low price these days. Look at what stars costed this offseason the prices are as high as ever.

Worst case is it doesnt work out and the Mavs have a extra 30mill dollars to revamp their roster in the offseason.
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
Dallas is now live to win it all. Kyrie is a ceiling raiser when it really matters. Now in crunch time you have Kyrie to worry about too. This just made Luka’s playoff life a heck of a lot easier. And for those who think Kyrie doesn’t play defense, well you simply haven’t been watching him play. He’s been totally engaged on that end this season.

Dinwiddie is a nobody. DFS is whatever. Heck, as I said Mavs could not be done dealing and they could even pick someone up who gets bought out to plug and play some wing defense. Not to be dismissed is that they got Markieff Morris as well in this trade. Now being a player in a deal (perhaps a 3 teamer) for Crowder makes a Lot of sense.
lol

many of us got this right

#shallowlanger
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04-07-2023 , 07:32 PM
Lol I did not realize chilltown still posts here. Rhat post is legendary but still love our mod
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04-07-2023 , 07:34 PM
what even is this he'll play 1q today and then we're shutting him down for the season thing? cubes claiming load management experts who've run the numbers and concluded that he's got 8 minutes left in him, no more no less? lol
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04-07-2023 , 07:40 PM
The mavs were on the WCF last year then chose to:

1. RIP Doyle
2. Trade for a lazy flat-earth nazi who is heading to LA
3. …sit everyone to miss the playoffs?

Luka is so gone
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04-07-2023 , 09:35 PM
cubes is the smartest man in the room guys! he couldn't anticipate rick brunson convincing his son to sign with his team in the largest city in the country that also happens to be better than the mavs, and, oh, also gave him more money
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04-07-2023 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by vinivici9586
cubes is the smartest man in the room guys! he couldn't anticipate rick brunson convincing his son to sign with his team in the largest city in the country that also happens to be better than the mavs, and, oh, also gave him more money

Senior also played for Thibs. Jaylen is basically his godson.
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04-07-2023 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by vinivici9586
cubes is the smartest man in the room guys! he couldn't anticipate rick brunson convincing his son to sign with his team in the largest city in the country that also happens to be better than the mavs, and, oh, also gave him more money
lmao

cubes was prob offering dogecoin under the table or something


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Nets officially clinch the No. 6 seed in the East

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04-07-2023 , 10:31 PM
Mabs took a 13 point halftime lead in a do or die game they basically were determined to tank

They’re now down 8 with 3 to go

….congrats?
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04-07-2023 , 11:22 PM
Anyone think NBA fines Cuban for that and sets an example?

Normally I'd say no but I dunno with the leagues in bed with sports betting it does seem kinda sketchy
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04-07-2023 , 11:56 PM
It's disgusting practice. Now those ****ers have a 13.9% to land a top 4 pick. And they're at least 10th 4 times out of 5. I hate the lottery. I mean hell, even the play in round losers get to participate.

Ironically, in this instance, the lottery actually helps the tanking team. What if Dallas lollands Victor.

Ultimately, I think the lottery chances are just a consolation prize and they realized for the sake of the franchise and morale and Luka, they needed to end the season. Still, it's bull ****. But hey, Cubes is a businessman and played the ev. I'm not going to hate the game, but I do hate the current rules.

I think the NBA needs a lottery for the top of the draft. I can respect not wanting the bottom end teams to tank, but to spread it to all non-playoff teams is dumb and really penalizes the legitimately bad teams. I'd like to see the lottery be the top 7, maybe 8. There will always be those on the edge trying to gain ev, but much better for the bottom 10 teams to be duking it out without the fringe playoff teams. Plus, well, the bottom end teams are still basically tanking anyways with way less equity.

Dallas made their bed. LeBron GOAT for shipping with Kyrie.

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04-08-2023 , 12:10 AM
I think Russillo on the ringer has the correct take on this stuff for the most part, every single rule you make will create another web of angle shooting or another inefficiency that then needs to be dealt with, it is endless. Lotto 25%, lotto 14%, lotto spread evenly, play-in, no play-in, yada yada

Best course of action is honestly just Silver probably telling the owners "yo dont do anything too egregious"


But I feel like these arguments are so out of Hinke Sixers era. No one cares anymore.
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