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04-06-2023 , 03:16 PM
Problem is Warriors don't win on the road. Can see them losing to the Kings.

Kings also live for the 2nd seed so don't see them resting.
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04-06-2023 , 03:27 PM
Phx in the position it could tank/not tank games to get matchups/avoid match ups it wants/doesn't want in the first round.
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04-06-2023 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fidstar-poker
Problem is Warriors don't win on the road. Can see them losing to the Kings.

Kings also live for the 2nd seed so don't see them resting.

Kings are a sneaky sneaky team that nobody truly wants to face.
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04-06-2023 , 04:12 PM
Everyone wants to face them over Denver/Memphis/Phx and it's not even close.

I'd rather face them, but it's fairly close in my eyes.
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04-06-2023 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by fidstar-poker
Everyone wants to face them over Denver/Memphis/Phx and it's not even close.

I'd rather face them, but it's fairly close in my eyes.
Ask any real player, any real basketball player.

It don't matter if you win by a basket or a blowout.

Winning's winning.

And that's exactly what the Kings will do. #Prophecy #McLovinKnows
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04-06-2023 , 05:19 PM
Kings won’t rest all their starters and even so warriors are very capable of losing on road against a g league team
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04-06-2023 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenBears
Ok, so I think I have this right:

Denver has locked up the 1, which means they'll pack it in.

Suns need to win a game, they play Denver tonight, they will try to win. Line reflects this, Suns are -520

Once the suns win tonight, they'll be locked in to the 4 and will probably rest everybody. Rest > chemistry

The Warriors will play the Kings, who are locked in to the 3 and will rest everybody. Clips play Blazers, already trying to lose.

So very likely both Warriors and Clips win, bc they are under pressure to avoid the 7. Warriors are down a tiebreak to lakers, clips would lose a tiebreak to minnesota or new orleans.

Lakers obviously also need to win, and will be playing the resting suns now, and so likely to win that.

Pels and Wolves play Knicks and Spurs who are both playing for nothing.


Going into last game of the season, if the chalk holds, it's :

Clips 43
Warriors 43
Lakers 42
Pels 42
Wolves 41


Warriors need to win so they don't lose a tiebreak to Lakers and drop to 7th. Clips need to win lest they lose the tiebreak to Pels and Warriors win, and they drop to 7.

Lakers need to win.

Warriors playing blazers, clips playing resting suns, lakers playing jazz, so all those opponents are playing for nothing, all 3 likely to win.

Clips then win the tiebreak with warriors and get 5th, Warriors 6th, lakers 7th, pels/wolves winner 8th

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Originally Posted by ec_outlaw
Pretty sure the Suns have already locked up the 4. At least that's what they've been saying locally. I've actually already received my tickets for rd 1 games 1 & 2.

Edit: ESPN confirms the Suns are locked into the 4 seed

Ah yeah, you're right. Interesting they're -670 now vs Denver tonight. Must want to play 1 more game and get some Durant continuity before resting for the playoffs.

I assume they'd rather play the Clippers than the Warriors, so will be funny if they totally throw the last game of the season
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04-06-2023 , 05:20 PM
I for one am rooting for the I-80 series. Time to dust off the old Jason Williams jersey!
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04-06-2023 , 05:24 PM
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04-06-2023 , 05:29 PM
Wonder if Embiid plays tonight. Chance he throws out a hip injury or other random injury going for the mvp if he plays
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04-06-2023 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fidstar-poker
Problem is Warriors don't win on the road. Can see them losing to the Kings.

Kings also live for the 2nd seed so don't see them resting.
based on what? the joke of this current regular season? you actually think that stat has merit?


i wouldnt put much into home/road splits in regular season, think that is just noise

good teams win more on the road than less good teams, that is about it
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04-06-2023 , 07:54 PM
I'm not sure you can say "noise" on a 39 game sample size.

If you think that stat has "noise", your could say that about any stat.

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good teams win more on the road than less good teams, that is about it
So, you're saying the Warriors aren't a good team?
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04-06-2023 , 08:22 PM
No, I'm saying the NBA reg season is a joke and if a team struggled on the road with guys constantly shuffling in/out of lineup but that team also has nearly a decade track record of being a top tier team, I don't really care what their road record is.

The Warriors are gonna win 42-43 games this year and are still considered 1 of the best teams in the league by the betting markets. Do you think they care they "don't win on the road" over the last 5 meaningless months?

I also don't really judge teams based on home/road much either. I think it is largely noise and your intrinsic value as a team is your intrinsic value as a team. A few teams have better HCAs than others I would say, but I don't think teams are "better road teams" than others, they're just better teams.
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04-06-2023 , 08:31 PM
This is O/T, but wouldn't Warriors fans invade Kings arena? GS playoff tickets are expensive as hell, making the trip to Sac to go to a Kings game would probably be cheaper.
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04-06-2023 , 09:11 PM
Not that it could happen, but if Warriors played LAC they would turn Los Angeles into a home court.
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04-06-2023 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by muttiah
Kings won’t rest all their starters and even so warriors are very capable of losing on road against a g league team
Yup. Even in a must win game I'd still have reservations on whether Warriors would beat Houston in Houston.

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I for one am rooting for the I-80 series. Time to dust off the old Jason Williams jersey!
I think this series would be a blast even though I hate all the 3s. It'd still be a ridiculous splash fest. I have no clue who would win but I'd guess it's 6 or 7

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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
based on what? the joke of this current regular season? you actually think that stat has merit?


i wouldnt put much into home/road splits in regular season, think that is just noise

good teams win more on the road than less good teams, that is about it
Nonsense. Dude they are 9-29. I agree that generally means regardless of their 29-9 home record theyre just not a good team but mostly, we know the Warriors are an enigma of a team that is going to be tough to beat in Chase center. Honestly, if you could pick the teams top to bottom in the league to face in their home venue, I would guess the Warriors might be #1 in difficulty where I know they are not probably in anyone's top 5 or probably top 10 this year on the road. That speaks.

Given their road record they should be much lower if a list was made but underatably they are defending Champs and people are still scared of them

Still the same team, but I know you're intelligent and have to agree that they are a different team this year.

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Originally Posted by fidstar-poker
Not that it could happen, but if Warriors played LAC they would turn Los Angeles into a home court.
Yup. I don't think it matters if it's the Utah Jazz, it'd be a Jazz crowd. Sad, Clippers with George might be my favorite and even without are top 3 to come out of the west but I am a Kawaii "stan" as you fellas say.

Edit: even though his load management and primadonna attitude are annoying and make him the worst.

Last edited by VincentVega; 04-06-2023 at 09:49 PM.
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04-06-2023 , 09:55 PM
To add to Kawaii, it's funny that when he was with the Spurs and he was known to just be a quiet badass that didn't seem to care for the attention he was cool. Turns out he seems to be one of the biggest dicks in sports to those that pay attention for the exact reasons why he appeared likable.

He's still maybe my favorite player to watch because he just buries teams before they realize what's happened to them. But because of his bullshit it's almost impossible to root for him or the Clippers in general. Norm Powell is legit though and should get more playing time and more recognition.
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04-06-2023 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
This is O/T, but wouldn't Warriors fans invade Kings arena? GS playoff tickets are expensive as hell, making the trip to Sac to go to a Kings game would probably be cheaper.
Will it be? Feels like the Kings are going to have a wait list a mile long for those tickets this year.
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04-06-2023 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
This is O/T, but wouldn't Warriors fans invade Kings arena? GS playoff tickets are expensive as hell, making the trip to Sac to go to a Kings game would probably be cheaper.

I take it you haven’t visited Sacramento in person. Kidding aside it’s kind of a nice stadium built inside a mall.
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04-06-2023 , 11:16 PM
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Will it be? Feels like the Kings are going to have a wait list a mile long for those tickets this year.

Also, flwarriors fans will take abuse as they should. The team lost its soul when it moved to San Francisco. Bunch of yuppies, bankers, tech bros
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04-06-2023 , 11:48 PM
We'll have to disagree VV....I don't think GS being 9-29 on the road is very relevant unless I just think they're a diminished team compared to last year. Reg season is a joke now, you're gonna get outliers like that. That team probably mailed half those games in after their 4th ring.

If they're not as good anymore then it is what it is but I'd have a tough time looking at that stat as evidence.
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04-06-2023 , 11:52 PM
What will Memphis do Sunday assuming Dallas wins tomorrow? My guess is they will sit guys, it is the NBA.

But why not try to beat OKC to put Dallas in there as the 10 seed thus making the 7 seeds job harder and possibly playing a weaker 1st rd opponent?

I know Dallas has struggled recently but I'd still like their chances to pull an upset on LAL/GS/LAC more than OKC.


Memph is a heavy analytics org so maybe they see the probability edge in that?
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04-07-2023 , 12:16 AM
Dal sucks and OKC is decent lol. SGA > Luka
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04-07-2023 , 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
We'll have to disagree VV....I don't think GS being 9-29 on the road is very relevant unless I just think they're a diminished team compared to last year. Reg season is a joke now, you're gonna get outliers like that. That team probably mailed half those games in after their 4th ring.

If they're not as good anymore then it is what it is but I'd have a tough time looking at that stat as evidence.
Then what do you believe that stat is saying? It's just meaningless? Like you figure there's "nothing to loom at here?"

Cause I feel If they were 26-15 at home and 19-22 on the road I'd get it. I'd say , eh could be enough variance there. But I'm curious how you couldn't see that type of discrepancy and not feel it means something.
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04-07-2023 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by VincentVega
Then what do you believe that stat is saying? It's just meaningless? Like you figure there's "nothing to loom at here?"

Cause I feel If they were 26-15 at home and 19-22 on the road I'd get it. I'd say , eh could be enough variance there. But I'm curious how you couldn't see that type of discrepancy and not feel it means something.
Let's start here, do you think there is a such thing as good and bad road teams? I really don't.

I just think there are good and bad teams and you rate the teams accordingly. Once you rate the teams, more or less that is how they would perform on the road.

Do you agree with that premise?



If they are a worse road team by a significant margin than last year, I'd have to believe they are significantly worse team overall.
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