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07-02-2015 , 07:39 PM
Forgot all about fatters. Okc prob home again next April.
07-02-2015 , 07:39 PM
ed davis 3/20: another amazing deal in this ~7m a year range, great offseason for the blazers imo. ed might have a little bump in him, and even if he doesn't he's a serviceable third big, a fine starter for a rebuilding team who might be able to turn him into a third big when they get more talent, and there's just a chance he's way better than we think. aminu and ed davis are both in their prime and drawing super live to be league avg starters. will they get there? probably not, but i'd much rather sign them than some of these other buffoons getting megabucks.

thomas robinson to brooklyn: cheap deal but ultimately fine. i hear he's a locker room cancer but don't know enough about taht to bash him-- i think he's got a place in the league as an energy guy off the bench. still young, still good pedigree.

dudley trade to wiz: love it. he might be as good this year as PP, so they might luckbox into an upgrade. perfect guy to platoon with otto while he and oubre come along.

jae crowder 5/35 to celts: elite deal. i dont' think iv'e commented on this yet, but this is simply a good gamble that jae is capable of being a rotation player at worst, takes a shooting leap and becomes a league avg starting wing at best. and a great brad guy, lots of hustle and D.
07-02-2015 , 07:43 PM
What do the analytics say about how much of a dropoff in infectious swagger there is from The Truth to Dudley?
07-02-2015 , 07:45 PM
Ya Phx ending up being better than OKC wouldn't stun me. I've really really like Bledsoe for a long time. Unique skill-set and elite athleticism at the 1.

I don't have a strong opinion on them v Houston so kept quiet until I thought that one through.

OKC just wasn't even being mentioned.
07-02-2015 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by aejones
someone should go after KJ, he's another guy i am super down to take a flier on. imagine if you could lock him up to like 4/30. obv he's not great sometimes, but sometimes he's awesome! and the EV of him being awesome while he's so young/athletic is so high... and yet here we are, teams wanting to pay these washed up buffoons
This is the type of thing Indy did w/ Harrington and Bender back in the day
07-02-2015 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
Forgot all about fatters. Okc prob home again next April.
me too

07-02-2015 , 08:11 PM
Am I totally wrong for thinking Greg Monroe is overrated, inefficient, and a fairly crappy rim protector?

Not sure I would be willing to give him a 3/50... unless I'm the Bucks and I don't have a real center I guess?
07-02-2015 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Turn Prophet
Am I totally wrong for thinking Greg Monroe is overrated, inefficient, and a fairly crappy rim protector?

Not sure I would be willing to give him a 3/50... unless I'm the Bucks and I don't have a real center I guess?
i said some stuff about the contract, but zach lowe obviously said it 10x better in his column. just read that, he knows more about the nba than the active posters in this thread combined
07-02-2015 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
Man recency bias, guys

Everyone is sleeping on OKC apparently

They're also far from dead against Clips if DAJ leaves, they should be favored

I don't feel confident saying the Spurs would be better as well if they don't make an addition

Saying they're drawing live against Por and Dallas would be an understatement as well. Again, they'd be favored.
Yeah, if all the key Thunder are healthy they can easly make the WCF, but I feel that's their current cap. I have nothing to back this up fwiw, just a feeling that Westbrook's constant gambling, Kanter's historically terrible defence and the mediocrity of most of the Thunder role player will not allow them to be a championship team.

But I was talking about the Suns+LMA when referring to their playoff equity, not the Thunder.

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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
I'm not being disagreeable with you UD btw, I just think your points have been off on this page but it's nothing personal fwiw
No problem, I am the first to admit that I'm a bit of a casual fan.
07-02-2015 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
you massively underrate their upside with LMA.

they'd be faves to be > rockets. i'd bet so much on phoenix vs houston last longers, win totals, whatever
Meh. They would have to move Markieff Morris to get LMA, which means that most of their bench would either be too inexperienced (Goodwin, Warren and, to a lesser extent, Len) or terrible (Gerald Green). Their starting five (Knight-Bledsoe-Tucker-Aldridge-Chandler?) would be very sexy, but they cannot do it alone.
07-02-2015 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite
But I was talking about the Suns+LMA when referring to their playoff equity, not the Thunder.
I know bro, but they'd have to play them in the West
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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite
They are drawing live against 3 teams that made playoffs last year: Dallas, Portland and New Orleans. Barring catastrophic injuries, they're dead against the Woyas, the Clippers, the Rockets and the Spurs.
and you didn't list them
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No problem, I am the first to admit that I'm a bit of a casual fan.
07-02-2015 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by nit3.runn3r
Hopefully the front office doesn't think they're contenders already. I was totally fine staying pat after Monroe, letting Giannis and Parker grow a bit more, but I guess we're gonna keep gambling eh?
It makes sense still. We young as hell. Dudley old.

Zaza smells so bad in the locker room right now he's gotta be next
07-02-2015 , 08:28 PM
Zaza Patchouli?
07-02-2015 , 08:35 PM
I like Monroe to the bucks. That's one of the few teams who can save him. One of their assistants is a defensive wiz. He might get good.
07-02-2015 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by aejones
ed davis 3/20: another amazing deal in this ~7m a year range, great offseason for the blazers imo. ed might have a little bump in him, and even if he doesn't he's a serviceable third big, a fine starter for a rebuilding team who might be able to turn him into a third big when they get more talent, and there's just a chance he's way better than we think. aminu and ed davis are both in their prime and drawing super live to be league avg starters. will they get there? probably not, but i'd much rather sign them than some of these other buffoons getting megabucks.
The more things change the more they stay the same

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Originally Posted by me
Ed Davis seems to be in the Brandon Wright doghouse where everyone around him is getting silly contracts and seemingly TZ is the only one that views Davis for what he is/can be

You should always gamble on size but unless they've been a starter in the past GM's seem really dumb (MoreyGOAT)
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2617

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For a certain subset of guys their wage seems randomly sticky.

Brandon Wright comes to mind. We'll see if Ed Davis is stuck in that quagmire too. Nate Robinson ...
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=24705
07-02-2015 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
I like Monroe to the bucks. That's one of the few teams who can save him. One of their assistants is a defensive wiz. He might get good.
Agreed, if your PG sucks you might as well get a post who can pass
07-02-2015 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nit3.runn3r
Hopefully the front office doesn't think they're contenders already. I was totally fine staying pat after Monroe, letting Giannis and Parker grow a bit more, but I guess we're gonna keep gambling eh?
I don't think the FO thinks they are contenders already, but they do know that at this point, they are about winning. After the Monroe & Mids signings plus the Vasquez trade, they had 17 players with Dudley. They need to move some guys.

I doubt there will be any big moves, but maybe still another trade or two for picks or simply dumping a couple guys to sign a cheap FA.
07-02-2015 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite
Meh. They would have to move Markieff Morris to get LMA, which means that most of their bench would either be too inexperienced (Goodwin, Warren and, to a lesser extent, Len) or terrible (Gerald Green). Their starting five (Knight-Bledsoe-Tucker-Aldridge-Chandler?) would be very sexy, but they cannot do it alone.
the thing about teej is that he's a stud and he's gonna have a breakout year and be good-- he has upside to usurp starting SF role from peej. teej/len/gerald is a nice 6-8 and they can stomach whoever's better between booker + archie as their 9th man since he will get cut from rotation in playoffs anyway if everyone's healthy.

don't think they'd be much better than rockets, but they have a decent bit more upside.
07-02-2015 , 08:58 PM
Rolo discussing deal 12-13 per range with Knicks per Wof
07-02-2015 , 08:59 PM
Lavoy Allen back to Pacers.
07-02-2015 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Christophersen
Lavoy Allen back to Pacers.
Signing him away from the West teams is big
07-02-2015 , 09:13 PM
Catching up on the thread. I have to admit, I enjoy odb popping in here and there to call LMA "trash" and "old and soft." He's not even 30 yet, is good for like 23/11 per game, and is an underrated range defender at 7' tall. There's a reason all these teams want to meet with him. Did he **** your GF or something?

Also, I have to LOL at the Kings. What a dumpster fire that organization is now. All the things are wrong with them.
07-02-2015 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SirOsis
Catching up on the thread. I have to admit, I enjoy odb popping in here and there to call LMA "trash" and "old and soft." He's not even 30 yet, is good for like 23/11 per game, and is an underrated range defender at 7' tall. There's a reason all these teams want to meet with him. Did he **** your GF or something?

Also, I have to LOL at the Kings. What a dumpster fire that organization is now. All the things are wrong with them.
Yeah, i just can't believe that trade with Hinkie. They're ****ed for like a decade now.

If choice A was: Trade away Boogie for DAR + Clarkson
and Choice B was: Trade away all your future picks/swaps to get rid of last year's #7 pick to free enough space to throw tons of $$ at free agents who will just laugh at the idea of paying 13.3% state income tax to live in your minor league town and play for your horrible franchise

I think they should have chosen A
07-02-2015 , 09:29 PM
I heard on the newest Zach Lowe podcast that the Kings could have gotten the necessary cap room to chase free agents if they just used the stretch-provision on a player like Thompson or Landry. So they didn't even need to make this trade... Maybe I misunderstood what I heard. If I interpreted what I heard correctly, even more laughs need to be had for the Kings.

      
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